Shameful display on CSPAN......Alliance for marriage

[TeacherCreature]

There is a group of African American and Hispanic Pastors twisting the debate about same sex marriage. Each one has stood there and blamed homosexuals for the breakdown of the family and saying it would make the incidence of single parents raising children alone.
They are saying the ammendment is not about discrimination. They are OFFENDED that homosexuals have made that argument, because no one knows discrimination like they do.

[TeacherCreature]

1. UGH

Now same sex marriage threatens La Faminlia.

[Ripley]

2. Once again religion clouds their minds...

How in the world they can blame homosexuals for their problems, is beyond me.

Ask them to substitute any other group of people for the non-heterosexual people in that bill, and see if they think it would be discriminatory.

They don't clamor for an amendment that would not allow pedophiles or rapists from marrying and being around children do they?

[noiretextatique]

14. homo-hatred is sacred hatred

like misogyny.

[Stuckinthebush]

3. Bigotry knows no racial barrier

it would seem....

[Bluebear]

4. An absolutely disgraceful display

Fundy Christians are really becoming the dividers in this nation.

[terrya]

5. Discrimination is discrimination.

Man, ok, we get it. The gay civil rights struggle isn't the same as African-American civil rights.

But, Jesus. Discrimination is wrong. Be it skin color or gender or sexual orientation.

And sons and daughters have been disowned because they came out to their parents as gay. Families have been destroyed because some parents have chosen to deny the basic humanity of their children...that they are gay. Gay kids have committed suicide because they were confused and upset...over the reaction of their parents, their friends, classmates at school. And there are gay bashings. Matthew Shepard is a tragic victim of anti-gay bigotry.

This saddens me...that African-Americans would be so angry about gay marriage.

[Neecy]

11. did you also notice...

The planted question in the audience about Senator Mikulski being a lesbian? Some claim that the information came from a 'gay activist' site - yeah, right, no doubt owned and operated by the GOP.

These people will stop at nothing. I think I'll do some checking to see if this 'site' exists.

[terrya]

13. Oh, God. Christ, why don't they just drag out the "Hillary is a lesbian"

horseshit while they're at it?

Let me know what the site says. Though I suspect it may be tied to the GOP.

[Neecy]

15. hmmmmm

It would appear as though Michelangelo Signorile is one of the authors of this allegation.

Other than the fact that she's unmarried, I'm suspicious of this. I've heard rumors about just about everyone alive, but not about her - strange, since she voted for DOMA. You'd think it would have come out then if true.

Here's the link - I guess he'd rather have a Republican in her seat.

http://www.nypress.com/17/27/news&columns/MichelangeloSignorile.cfm

[lcooksey]

21. According to the Washington Blade

Mikulski didn't take a stand on the FMA until that website outed her. Rumors have circulated for years that she's a lesbian, but they've never gained any traction. I doubt they will this time, either.

I'm generally against outing. But if you are a closeted gay person voting for the FMA, or you work for a Senator or Congressperson who plans to vote for the FMA, you deserve to be outed. BTW, most of the people "outed" on Americablog are out, just not at work.

In the case of the guy working for Jim "I'm outraged by the outrage" Inhofe, he was so out that he'd been interviewed in an article in a gay magazine. The only reason to "out" him was to embarass Inhofe, whose official office policy was that he would never employee a homosexual.

[atreides1]

6. Screw Them, They are All Tokens anyway

And they continue to support a political party that just loves discriminating against them, but invites them in to the party when they need tokens.

I didn't see this charade, how many had hair cuts, how many were shaven, and could you tell if the suits they were wearing were made from at least two different types of materials.

What's funniest of all is these were the same arguments used by those that were opposed to interracial marriages, I guess they got there early so could read the script that the Rethugs had written for them.

It would seem that the Gay community are now the 21st Century Jews, and the powers that be have gotten those who still don't have equal rights to denounce them for a small share of the pie.

What a pathetic bunch of black and brown bigots. We are truly doomed.

[Neecy]

7. I'm sickened

What a shame that the Republicans have managed to set our communities apart with their horrible, divisive amendment.

And yes, I'm angry at what's being said. People once used the bible to justify slavery, yet we see AME ministers justifying discrimination using the bible.

Then I see someone who was born in another country attempting to deny rights to millions of native citizens. Sorry if this offends anyone, but I'm just really furious.

Most of all, I'm angry that the Republicans must be laughing up their sleeves right now. REALLY angry.

[terrya]

8. One question to these people: what about African- American and..

Hispanic gay and lesbian people? Do these Alliance for Marriage people think that only white gay people are asking for legal marriage?

Just curious...

[noiretextatique]

9. some black folks believe homosexuality is a "white plot"

so that if you are gay and black, you have somehow been corrupted by the white man's evil plot to destroy black families. personally, i think it has a lot to do with machismo, i.e., oppressed men feel the need to overcompensate in the maleness department. other than that...homo-hatred is just a really acceptable bigotry...for everyone.

[trof]

12. A "third rail" with some black, religious dems.

At least here in coastal Alabama.

(Aside: The people I've come in contact with prefer "black".
Quote: "I've never been to Africa, and I'm not an 'African American'. I'm just an American.")

In setting up our voter registration program we've met with some black Democratic groups. They are mainly organized through and around churches. Their churches are social centers as well as places of worship. Most of the people I've talked to are dead set against gays in general, and gay marriage in particular. They see it as an abomination. I avoid the subject when possible.

Just my experience.

[noiretextatique]

17. just like most of my relatives in texas

except they try to be liberal because they see themselves as more cosmopolitan and modern than some of their contemporaries in other parts of the south, but their religious beliefs are still opressively traditional.
i think they would think twice about this marriage issue because they would think of me and their gay friends, but in the end, they'd capitulate to religious doctrine.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

10. This

bullshit is the new Southern strategy.

[TeacherCreature]

16. yes

And sometimes I wonder if people have any sense of solidarity at all.

[damnraddem]

18. Let's see: they're blaming gays who want to get married for ...

the actions of heterosexuals who have children but don't want to get married? No wonder they can't perceive discrimination -- they can't even adequately target who is at 'fault' for the decline of marriage.

[damnraddem]

19. Let's see: they're blaming gays who want to get married for ...

the actions of heterosexuals who have children but don't want to get married? No wonder they can't perceive discrimination -- they can't even adequately target who is at 'fault' for the decline of marriage.

[tom_paine]

20. Then, they came for the homosexuals

But I wasn't a homosexual, so I didn;t speak out.

Fuck these preachers. God damn their wrinkled Bushevik souls TO HELL!

And there will be NO ONE left tro speak out for them when their Bushevik Masters come for them.

Hell, except for the fact that I don't expect to be alive by that time, I'd HELP the Busheviks round these fuckers up for transport to the Arizona Gulags.

Self-throat-cutting FOOLS!