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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 02:32 PM
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Clinton No-Bid Halliburton contracts...true or false?
Need help debunking a post that contains this info....
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 02:34 PM
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1. It's true
In Kosovo I believe....I think I posted a portion of the articles online a while back....

The difference is Clinton didn't manufacture the cause for a war in order to bid them...
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 02:36 PM
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3. Okay, so why is it bad if Unka Dick does it but NOT if President Clinton
..did it?

I'm not looking for an argument here, I'm just asking....
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 02:40 PM
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7. Did Clinton personally profit from it?
Did Clinton manufacture evidence in order to award those contracts?

Clinton clearly had no conflict of interest when the contracts were awarded.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 02:41 PM
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8. I'd say that since Dick still had financial interest
in the company despite his denials, and that he actively as a government official pushed for a war that would enrich him through his stock holdings in the company, makes it at very least a conflict of interest and at worst, a war crime.


Whatever influenced Clinton to award them a no-bid contract, it wasn't for his own self-enrichment.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 02:42 PM
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10. Dick is former CEO of Halliburton and still receives compensation
Conflict of Interest.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 02:43 PM
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11. Uncle Dick - as Def Sec under Bush41 - started the Master Contract game
It was up for renewal in 96 or 97 and went to a single "winner" but with a lot of no-bid stuff given Haliburton, as I recall.

I am not even certain Haliburton got the renewed Master Contract under Clinton - although it would not surprise me (GOPer Cohen of Maine was Def Sec under Clinton as Clinton tried to be nice to GOP!)
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 03:30 PM
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12. Bit of History on Cheney's 1992 Privatization of DOD & Halliburton
Early in 1991 the secretary unveiled a plan to reduce military strength by the mid-1990s to 1.6 million, compared to 2.2 million when he entered office. In his budget proposal for FY 1993, his last one, Cheney asked for termination of the B-2 program at 20 aircraft, cancellation of the Midgetman, and limitations on advanced cruise missile purchases to those already authorized. When introducing this budget, Cheney complained that Congress had directed Defense to buy weapons it did not want, including the V-22, M-1 tanks, and F-14 and F-16 aircraft, and required it to maintain some unneeded reserve forces. His plan outlined about $50 billion less in budget authority over the next 5 years than the Bush administration had proposed in 1991. Sen. Sam Nunn of the Senate Armed Services Committee said that the 5-year cuts ought to be $85 billion, and Rep. Les Aspin of the House Armed Services Committee put the figure at $91 billion.


Most of the contracts have been with the U.S. Army for engineering work in a variety of hot spots, including Bosnia, Albania, Kosovo and Haiti. Not surprisingly all this work stems from a new scheme to privatize operations of the U.S. military that were drawn up by Halliburton itself under contract to Cheney in 1992.

http://corpwatch.radicaldesigns.org/article.php?id=2471

The U.S. military has always relied on private contractors to provide some basic services such as construction, dating back as far as the Civil War. But today as much as 10% of the emergency U.S. army operations overseas are contracted out to private companies run by former government and military officials. These private companies operate with no public oversight despite the fact that these contractors work just behind the battle lines. The companies are allowed to make up to nine percent in profit out of these war support efforts. And experience so far has shown that the companies are not above skimming more profits off the top if they can.<snip>

<snip>The new job is one of the first examples of a lucrative, new ten-year contract that Kellogg, Brown & Root won from the Pentagon on December 14, 2001 titled Logistics Civil Augmentation Program (LOGCAP). The contract is what the Pentagon calls a "cost-plus-award-fee, indefinite-delivery/indefinite-quantity service," which basically means that the federal government has an open-ended mandate and budget to send Kellogg, Brown & Root anywhere in the world to run humanitarian or military operations for profit.<snip>



The Revolving Door
Halliburton, Kellogg, Brown & Root's parent company, is a Fortune 500 construction corporation working primarily for the oil industry. In the early 1990s the company was awarded the job to study and then implement privatization of routine army functions under Dick Cheney, then secretary of defense.<snip>

When Cheney quit his job at the Pentagon, he landed the job as chief executive of Halliburton, bringing with him, his trusted deputy David Gribbin. The two substantially increased Halliburton's government business until they quit in 2000 when Cheney was elected vice-president, taking multi-million dollar golden parachutes with them. Since then, another former military office and Cheney confidante, Admiral Joe Lopez, former commander in chief for U.S. forces in southern Europe, took over Gribbin's former job of go-between the government and the company, according to Kellogg, Brown & Root's own press releases. Other close friends include Richard Armitage, the assistant secretary of state, who worked as a consultant to Halliburton before taking up his present job.<snip>

Running services at military camps is a relatively new chore for Kellogg, Brown & Root that began in 1992 when the Pentagon, then under Cheney's direction, paid the company $3.9 million to produce a classified report detailing how private companies (like itself) could help provide logistics for American troops in potential war zones around the world. (see related article) Later in 1992, the Pentagon gave the company an additional $5 million to update its report.

That same year, Kellogg, Brown & Root won its first five-year logistical support contract from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers that would send them into work alongside G.I.s in places like Somalia, Haiti, Kosovo, Bosnia, and Saudi Arabia. The Balkan contract has been the most profitable for Kellogg, Brown & Root -- the General Accounting Office (GAO) estimates that the company made $2.2 billion in revenue during the U.S. military operations there building sewage systems, kitchens, and showers and even washing underwear for the 20,000 U.S. soldiers stationed there.<snip>

The allegations in the case first surfaced several years ago when Dammen Gant Campbell, a former contracts manager for Kellogg, Brown & Root, turned whistle-blower and charged that between 1994 and 1998 the company fraudulently inflated project costs by misrepresenting the quantities, quality and types of materials required for 224 projects. Campbell said that the company submitted a detailed "contractors pricing proposal" from an Army manual containing fixed prices for some 30,000 line items.

Once the proposal was approved, the company submitted a more general "statement of work" which did not contain a detailed breakdown of items to be purchased. Then, according to Campbell, Kellogg, Brown & Root intentionally did not deliver many items listed in the original proposal. The company defends this practice by claiming that the "statement of work" was the legally binding document, not the original "contractors pricing proposal."<snip>



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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 02:35 PM
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2. I don't have any idea, but it would not surprise me. Halliburton has
always had its tentacles around the neck of the "American Taxpayer's money bag allocation" departments. But now they have a DIRECT LINE TO THE PRESIDENT (Cheney is the president).
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 02:37 PM
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4. Halliburton probably makes more in a week on the Iraq war ...
then they made over 6 months in the Kosovo war.
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 02:37 PM
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5. it's in greg palast's book
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 02:41 PM
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9. Dude, your article does not say what you say it says
Not even close.

Got a proper link?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 02:38 PM
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6. No credible info, but a whole lot of carbon copy Bushevik
Edited on Tue Jul-13-04 02:38 PM by tom_paine
posts.

Now, it could be made up out of whole cloth, this slur. That would be in keeping with Bushevik Propaganda protocols.

Nothing can be found except repetition after repetition of the Bushevik slur.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Clinton+Halliburton+no+bid+contract+Serbia&spell=1

Does that mean it never happened, or didn't happen in the way the Buseviks are lying about it now?

Probably, not definitely.
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