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xyboymil Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 12:39 PM
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Prediction: Cheney will have "convenient" heart attack in August..
And be "forced" to resign and pull out of his position as VP (aka President since we all know damn well he IS the President).

I am guessing to save face for Cheney, he will come down with a sudden medical condition that will require him to resign his position as VP. This will happen right around late August or September when Bushes polling numbers plummet dangerously low and they become desperate.

Bush will scramble (yeah...right:eyes:) to find a running mate (guessing someone like Colin Powell, Condy Rice, or maybe Guillani (sp))...look like the underdog/hero for charging on in his campaign and milk the American sympathy vote for all it's worth.


Ya, it's a conspiracy theory, but would anyone be all that surprised if it happened??? :puke:

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 12:39 PM
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1. Ain't gonna happen
Cheney's too addicted to the power.
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Literate Tar Heel Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 12:46 PM
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3. but his power
really isn't derived from his office as vice president, it comes from his position among the neo-con/PNAC crowd ... that won't change too much if he is no longer vice president (Richard Perle holds no elected office but he still pulls a lot of strings) ... there's no reason that Cheney couldn't still pick up the phone and tell Bush what to do from "an undisclosed location", pretty much the same thing he does now ... and who knows? once his "health improves", he'd be right there waiting to be named Secretary of Defense if Rumsfeld has to be thrown overboard for some future fuck-up
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 12:52 PM
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6. Sure it is. He's already on his way out.
How many Bush/Cheney 04 signs have you seen? Bumperstickers? How about all Bush's attack ads? It looks like he's the only one running for anything, because Cheney isn't mentioned.

The poster boy for corporate corruption and conflicts of interest is a real liability. He's being buried under an avalanche of lawsuits. Every time he opens his mouth to sneer, even the puppy dog press jumps on him. They'll get him out if they have to THROW him out.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 12:44 PM
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2. Rove could pull this out of his hat like Ditka --
In my less sanguine moments, I'm convinced they'll do whatever they have to do to stay in power.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 12:50 PM
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4. they will do ANYTHING to keep power, including cancelling elections

Americans have been asleep too long and the mechanisms have already been put in place without any real objections....

it's much to easy now for bush* to seize total control....

probably the only thing that will stop him now is if the military intervenes....
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 12:51 PM
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5. Whatever is necessary
They will do whatever is necessary, but Bush will have a 2nd term. If Cheney refuses to drop out, then there will be a terror threat that will force postponement of the election. Would they actually arrange an attack of some kind that they would say were terrorists? Something, not drastic, but serious enough to scare the hell out of the population so that we would accept no election? Yes, I believe so.

Bush in the White House w/ a Repub Congress- everything the right wing ever wanted would be within reach. There would be no restraint on Bush's evil.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 02:00 PM
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7. I also fear this.
Edited on Wed Jul-14-04 02:03 PM by Nay
All the Bushies have to do to shake the election up a little is to put a more popular VP choice on the ticket. Cheney can go back to Halliburton when he "feels better" and the repubs can profit from the shakeup. I truly believe they will only need a boost of a few points to actually win this election.

Why am I so pessimistic? One reason is that I just got back from my favorite Mexican restaurant, where I overheard two young women in the next booth talking. They were loud and the conversation quite easy to hear (couldn't avoid it, as a matter of fact). They were both married with kids. One had sent the other a religious greeting card of some kind, and the recipient was going on about how it had arrived at just the right time, etc. Further conversation ensued about Jesus providing guardian angels for their children and family, how God guided someone to go to Russia to adopt kids, conversation about a religious magazine that had short inspirational stories (the woman who recommended this mag said she had time to read only short little things these days), etc. etc. One story was of a man arrested for the rape of his three-year-old daughter, how he refused to sign a confession because he did not do it, he was a very religious man and loved his family and would go to jail before he agreed to sign, etc.
Now, I have no idea who this guy is in the story, and he may certainly be innocent as can be (and probably is), considering the justice system, but my point is. . .

Where the hell is THIS religious guy's guardian angel? Did he take a long vacation? Where are the guardian angels for the kids who die in car wrecks, bathtub drownings, driveby shootings, airplane crashes?

Why do these women believe in guardian angels when it is so manifestly obvious that there is no such thing? Or, at least, that a person cannot count on such creatures for anything if they do exist? Do these women truly believe that the children killed and brutalized every day weren't good enough to have a guardian angel?

This sort of magical, disconnected-from-reality thinking WILL KILL the United States as a nation. These are the sort of people who vote for Bush because he is "a religious man" with "religious values." It is the most horrifying disconnect I have seen in my 53 years, and it's getting worse because the admen, TV, religious and political leaders encourage this kind of thinking in order to consolidate their power. I have little hope that these sort of people will wake up on their own.

I maintain that any change in the Bush ticket will magically make people "feel better" about voting repub again, even if the intrusion of dirty old reality was starting to bother them. It won't even matter who the new VP is -- that is the power of magical thinking.


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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 02:11 PM
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8. i posted on this the other day. i think he will be replaced as vp
obviously no clear replacement though... i think thats the only hold up to the plan.

mccain - no way unless he thinks he will be president. not because he is power hungry but because he basically has brains and integrity and no way would play a meaningless role in the new * wh. and he can do more in the senate to build back the republican party of old which is what he wants to do i think.

powell - cant see how he would accept this after all he knows now...

others are pro choice which doesnt wow them like * would want
people like guiliani are not only pro choice but have a couple controversial things in his past but is a possibility.

bernard kerkik perhaps.... bring the obedience and articulate toughness * would want

they need name recognition. i dont know.

condoleeza could be a possibility. shes definitely been on board with the meme besides the gender and racial aspects.
she definitely wouldnt threaten the wizard behind the curtain
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