22181
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:03 PM
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What to do with mean, neocon, borderline racist brother? |
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Fortunately he lives several hundred miles away from me and rarely calls, so I don't have to deal with him that much.
Unfortunately he's started emailing out his neopolitical, hate-filled, racist, skinhead-like spew. It started out with a simple F/9-11 bashing of Michael Moore. Now it's moved onto other stuff. I wonder if he is truly so socially defective that he doesn't realize how alienating his vitriol is, even to his own sister.
I've put him on my spam list so everything gets filtered out. I try to speak to him but everytime I do it blows up and he starts frothing and yelling and hangs up. It's not worth getting my blood pressure up for.
I was thinking about anonymously sending him F/9-11 or something similar by postal mail (when the movie comes to DVD of course).
All of you talk about how you're converting your neocon friends/family members by showing * for the criminal that he is. I wish I could get through my neanderthalic brother's thick skull long enough to do that...
Just commiserating, I guess.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:06 PM
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If everything else about him is fine, you should absolutely not let political views create a wedge between you. Politics and personal are two entirely different things.
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:07 PM
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2. I agree. It's the same in my family, so we generally agree to disagree |
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But if your bro truly won't let it go, then tit for tat and sending him progressive mailings is the only way to go.
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22181
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:11 PM
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everything else about him is broke as well. He cheated on his wife, a great woman who has supported him ever since he dropped out of college ten years ago... He did it openly and won't stop. He's just mean and borderline psychotic. I even found a petition against him at petitiononline.com to get him off ebay because he was harassing people...
Can't believe we came from the same parents...
Guess I should just ignore him completely, the blacklist is probably the best option. :) If I were to send him progressive style emails he'd flood me with more hate mail or call me up and yell at me...
Anyone else related, not just to repugs, but to total assholes?
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:14 PM
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11. Welcome! I'm glad he lives that far from you. He sounds mentally |
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ill and violent and if he were my bro I wouldn't waste time trying to educate him since it sets him off. You don't need him at your doorstep any time soon. Seriously, he sounds like he needs psychiatric help.
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:14 PM
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12. Sorry, my repub family folks are perfectly lovable. |
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I would say that your bro needs some serious prayers and possibly some meds and counseling, though.
*hugs*
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:33 PM
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I might find it easier to bear if they were the typical nasty, vicious right-wingers. It breaks my heart to think that some of my favorite people in the world are repugs.
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:14 PM
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13. Well, invite him to New York city... |
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drop him off in Harlem, while secretly putting a "I hate Niggers" sign on his back. Hop in the cab and get the hell out of there. :evilgrin:
Damn I'm evil, props to Die Hard With a Vengence even if Willis is a damned repuke.
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22181
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:18 PM
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15. Solon you're evil, but |
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you crack me up!!! I'm just getting a visual here. Thanks!
He does need psychiatric/psychological help bad. I often say he's so right wing that he makes Pat Robertson look like a tree hugging hippie freak.
We both had a tough childhood... I think his anger stems from that. I was rebellious and angry as a teen while he was perfect and angelic. Look how we turned out!
BTW his wife (recently just turned ex-wife) is trying to convince him to see someone professionally about his problems. they run a business together so she has a hard time walking away from him. (she still says she loves him which I just don't get personally, but I know he was very lovable and nice when they first met back when he was 17.)
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Wed Jul-14-04 03:51 PM
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24. Yes I am evil and here is another suggestion.... |
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you could just drop him off in the Village, with a solicitation sign on his pants. It will open his mind....ahem...Considering where it is located. :evilgrin:
Talk about THERAPY!!!!
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:17 PM
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Oh I'm related to a total asshole brother |
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And he is blacklisted. I'm better off without him.
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:07 PM
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3. Delete them without reading or responding...... |
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...He's winning if it is getting the better of you and causing you to expend time, thought and energy on the subject.
And as for everyone else on here "converting" their republican family, I would guess that at least 50% of the stories we read on here about how "I converted my repub brother!!!" are a load of BS. And I'd say another 10-20% are actually the relative just saying something to shut the people up and stop them from bothering them about politics. So I wouldn't let all those stories get you down.
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:08 PM
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4. Sounds like a bad one. |
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Edited on Wed Jul-14-04 02:11 PM by billybob537
Start sending him KKK signup info, Hey it could work. I had nothing to do with converting my brother, GWB did it all by himself. He's a uniter you know!
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:09 PM
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5. Hello and a belated welcome to DU... |
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Some people cannot be converted. There is nothing you can do about people like that so don't bother....Sorry if this sounds pessimistic, but those are the facts.....
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:12 PM
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and you're not pessimistic. you're realistic, I know.
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:09 PM
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6. Send him a sympathy card on November 3rd |
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No doubt he'll be in mourning once his hero is booted from office! Until then, about all you can do is what you are doing. Sounds like his mind is made up.
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:12 PM
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8. Tell him to Cheney himself. n/t |
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:12 PM
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Keep your distance and be polite and refuse to discuss anything with him other than the weather.
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:17 PM
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14. Just delete his email. |
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And avoid all political discussion with him. Completely. Walk out of the room if need be. Don't be rude. Just refuse to engage in such conversation.
Works for me.
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:21 PM
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16. Well hopefully he'll need a kidney |
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Edited on Wed Jul-14-04 02:25 PM by LibertyorDeath
and you'll be the only good match.
Then it will be down to you to have the courage of your convictions.
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:23 PM
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I started posting his emails here,took the comments and inundated him with it. I tried laughing , but he said that meant I had no answers,hence I let fellow DUrs help me trash his wingnut bullshit.
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:27 PM
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18. yeah, politely ignore him |
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You might want to send him a kind email saying that you unfortunately can't take his propaganda emailings seriously and won't be persuaded by any of it. Tell him the facts and trends are not in favor of any of it, that the reality is that in ~2050 admixed and non-white people will be the majority and much of the elite of America- and there is realistically nothing that he can do to stop or change this. Women and gays will achieve equality, confidence, and high offices. He will have to adapt or find a different society more suited to his tastes.
Your real problem is his immaturity, of course, and insistence on (white) male privilege. The latter usually has to do with some fact or sense of inferiority, e.g. mental problems and/or failure in school/work/wealth accumulation or social life. I say this as a white male who has seen plenty of the phenomenon.
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:31 PM
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19. What many folks don't understand... |
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...and many refuse to even consider, is that family is optional.
If the guy is lost, so be it. Better to speak to him and tell him that he can live his life as he sees fit but do not bring it around you, than to have to face hate in your email. If he will not respect your feelings, then he does not respect you, and he has turned his back on his family, so cut him loose. You can block his emails and be free of it. If he wants contact, he will have to write or call, but clicking a piece of evil at you just for the hell of it will no longer be an option open to him.
People don't decend into hateful behaviour with their family unless they really don't care about their family. Defend yourself if you can't trust your family to look out for you.
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Wed Jul-14-04 03:54 PM
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25. You're right. There's a limit to how much abuse |
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anyone should take from a family member just because they're family. No doubt the limit is different for everyone.
Confronting him might work, especially if you just say you disagree with him politically and therefore neither of you should send political e-mails to the other "but I hope you'll keep in touch."
If it's any consolation, everybody has a brother sort of like yours. Or a father, mother, sister, uncle, aunt. If they don't, they're overdue for one.
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:38 PM
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21. Your brother is mentally ill |
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I apologize if that sounds harsh. I don't intend to hart your feelings, but if your brother is such a problem to so many people (you mentioned a bulletin board getting complaints about his harrassing others) are complaining about him and he is oblivious to it, then he sounds like he has a serious problem. He needs professional help and you cant provide that and you cant force him to seek it out.
Don't hate him; he's ill. He needs help. You can try to help him, but you can't do anything unless he wants to be helped.
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Wed Jul-14-04 02:42 PM
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22. Some People Will Never Wake Up |
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I don't understand it, but that's the reality. Maybe it's caused by trauma, maybe it's cured by trauma, can't say for sure.
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Wed Jul-14-04 03:44 PM
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23. Buy him a copy of OUTFOXED for 10.00 bucks |
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Wed Jul-14-04 04:14 PM
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26. Fill out enlistment papers for the pseudo patriotic S.O.B.!!! |
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Get it motion for him to shipped off to Baghdad - he'll experience a Scrooge like overnight change of heart! Also fax him the articles regarding the Iraqi children being tortured by American soldiers! Let's see him give that a positive spin - torturing fucking children in front of their mothers!!!
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