Did Senate Report refute Joe Wilson's claims?

[dansolo]

There is an editorial in the Chicago Tribune today by Kathleen Parker claiming that Joe Wilson had provided no evidence to doubt the "16 words" in the State of the Union, at least according to the Senate Report on pre-Iraq war intelligence. This basically means that they are calling him a liar, and the report will now be used to further try and discredit Wilson, especially as the Plame case heats up.

[trumad]

1. First off, it's Soccer Mom, Kathleen Parker...

Secondly, if Wilson was wrong then why did CIA Director Tenet say that it was a mistake to include that in the address.....?

[underpants]

4. Right Tenet stopped them at least twice from putting it in speeches

The Oct. 7 ,2002 speech (the first salvo from W) didn't include it because Tenet wouldn't let it in there. There was at least one other speech that W (Rove) wanted to put it in but Tenet stopped them. Now they blame Tenet for NOT stopping it from getting in the SOTU, as if W is a child who asks and asks until you say yes or forget to tell him NO.

IAEA Director Mohamed ElBaradei testified at the UN that it took them about 10 minutes (on Google no less) to prove that the whole thing was BS.

[underpants]

2. Kathleen Parker?

Oh brother she has to be the mose USELESS writer to be receiving a paycheck. I swear she must have the goods on everyone in the newspaper business, she never actually SAYS anything.

Did she mention her family in the piece.

AS far as Wilson goes I heard something about this on Fox so I immediately discounted it. I don't know what it is that they stuck in the report to be used to discount Wilson but I am sure that that is what they did.

[trumad]

7. Parker has to get the nod from her husband before she thinks....

[plcdude]

3. yes this needs to be discussed

Rush is spending a lot of time on this and basically accusing Wilson of lying about the whole thing. What is the scoop here?

[genius]

5. I'm certain that Wilson is correct. The Republicans are covering for Bush

[trumad]

6. This is from Tenet himself....

"These 16 words should never have been included in the text written for the president," Tenet said in a statement released after Bush and his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, blamed the miscue on the CIA and members of Congress called for someone to be held accountable.

...."Officials who were reviewing the draft remarks on uranium raised several concerns about the fragmentary nature of the intelligence with National Security Council colleagues," Tenet said. "Some of the language was changed. From what we know now, agency officials in the end concurred that the text in the speech was factually correct that the British government report said that Iraq sought uranium from Africa."

"This should not have been the test for clearing a presidential address," the statement continued. "This did not rise to the level of certainty which should be required for presidential speeches, and CIA should have ensured that it was removed."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A44949-2003Jul11¬Found=true

[olddem43]

8. How does discrediting Wilson do anything?

Even if successful? His wife was still a CIA agent. They still revealed her. They must think everyone in this country is an idiot.
I guess if Johnny could discredit Nicole, O.J. would be Uhh ....

[gumby]

9. KP SUX

Bob Somerby at The Daily Howler has been questioning Wilson.

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh071204.shtml

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[trumad]

10. I love Bob, but he's wrong on this one.....

Again I ask...If Wilson was wrong then why did Tenet admit it should not have been in the SU and why did Rice blame others....?

[My Pet Goat]

11. I would like to see the rest of the memo...

Seem like it could be a quote out of context, like turning a memo to the boss outlining the pros and cons of various candidates into a "a recommendation to send" a particular person, namely Wilson.

If the quote seems so suggestive by itself, then I'm surprised a stronger quote is not available, like "I recommend my husband for the job." Seems to indicate the quote is out of context.