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historian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 07:54 PM
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so bush talks to god and
presumably hears answers in return. Funny i always thought that hearing voices came from two sources - delirium tremens or schizophrenia.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 07:59 PM
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1. Gawd... can you imagine DTs that included...
... Bush? :P

That would mean that the guy with the DTs was in your DTs.... :wow:
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 08:01 PM
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2. Meta level delerium
Wouldn't that be some kind of hyper lucidity?
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historian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 08:02 PM
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3. bush and lucidity are incompatible words
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 08:08 PM
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6. That, or...
... it would be confirmation that there is a devil and that he was tapdancing on one's frontal lobes.... :P
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Sporadicus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 08:05 PM
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4. * Was Talking to God One Day
and said, 'am I not your faithful servant? Why do you allow the homosexuals to carry out their agenda? Why are the Iraqis allowed to put up such resistance to our liberation of them? Why was my nemesis Michael Moore allowed to show his movie in spite of our best efforts at censorship? Why does my opponent John Kerry continue to gain popularity in the polls'

God said, 'I don't know, Chimpy...there's just something about you that pisses Me off!'
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 08:38 PM
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11. Ba-da-boom!!!
New twist on an old joke. Good one! :silly:
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 08:06 PM
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5. No, its not a sign of insanity
Delusions perhaps but not insanity. Insanity is indicitive of neurological damage. Hearing voices in your head is a learnable condition. Many sects and philosophies build upon this phenomena. While the matter is not settled it is arguable that this is simply a change of mental state in which the individual is conversing with their own inner voice and has for a number of possible reasons not identified it as self. They attribute this flow of consciousness as whatever culturally learned identity they have been taught. Buddhists feel they have become one with god, theists believe they are communing with god.

Dangerous but not insane.
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historian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 08:08 PM
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7. good analysis but
dont you think his inability to reason, to speak in coherent sentences, coupled with the idiotic expression on his face, are indicative of neurological damage? Booze can do that to you.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 08:10 PM
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8. Agreed
But the hearing of voices alone is not indicitive of insanity. In Bush's case I lean towards mild epilepsy. There is a pronounced increase in the frequency of such "religious" experiences amongst epileptics. It would also explain the rumored seizures and medication.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 08:11 PM
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9. Being "born-again" is essentially a state of induced schizophrenia
In this action, the former ego is suppressed and a new ego is vcreated to replace the old.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 08:26 PM
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10. Its tempting to claim such things
But the fact is that this process is a normal part of the brains function. Whether it is an anamoly or an evolved function is certainly in question.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 08:44 PM
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15. How long would any of you...
support J. Kerry if he announced that he was speaking with God and God told him to invade Iran, Syria or N. Korea?
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 08:56 PM
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17. Depends
I would be very concerned but I would examine what he did based on what he believed god was telling him to do. If he believed god was telling him to promote belief in him at the expense of mine or other's rights I would drop him like a hot potato. If his conversations with god lead him to take actions that I found dangerous I would turn away from him.

I am a Democrat. I am an atheist. Most of the people around me believe in god. Many believe they talk to god. What makes them dangerous is not talking to god. It is what their own mind in the guise of god tells them to do. As a Democratic Atheist I sometimes vote for theists (actually I usually vote for theists as my choices are limited in this nation). I believe they have flawed systems of belief just as they believe I am mistaken. But I expect them to respect me with my beliefs as I respect them with their beliefs. If their beliefs lead them to honorable actions I can work with them. If not then I will oppose them.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 08:40 PM
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12. You forgot syphillis and head trauma
Did he fall off the Segway before we invaded Iraq or after?
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 08:40 PM
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13. Abe Lincoln talked to God
or so he believed. There are many criticisms of Dubya that are legit. This is not one of them.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 08:42 PM
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14. When he prays outloud Rove is listening via bug.
And he answers lil Georgie in a thundering god-like voice.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 08:49 PM
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16. God and Jesus
Edited on Wed Jul-14-04 08:51 PM by Disturbed
Many people seem to accept that God would advocate invading another country but would Jesus advocate that? People say there is only one God-Mono-theism. What is the situation with there being a God and Jesus? Is Jesus not a God? Many people say that one must accept Jesus as their savior or they will not go to heaven. Isn't Jesus 2nd in charge of heaven? Accepting 1st in charge,God, as one's savior isn't going to deliver them into heaven?
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