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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 10:50 AM
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Need Clever Comeback To Latest RW EMAIL Please
thanks in advance

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I don't know how true these statements are, but you have to wonder.


"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity
to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them.
That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is
clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons
of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from , but what happens there matters a
great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use
nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the
greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten
times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with
the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if
appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond
effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of
mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI),
Tom Daschle (D-SD), John Kerry ( D - MA), and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of
mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region
and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of
mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his
weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear
programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In
addition,
Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the
cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that
will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and
others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant
and threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the
mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction
and the
means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and
chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven
impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long
as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We
are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to
build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence
reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the
authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I
believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands
is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear
weapons within the next five years ...... We also should remember we have
always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of
weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11
years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm
and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity.
This he has refused to do."
- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports
show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological
weapon stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He
has
also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda
members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked Saddam Hussein will
continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare,
and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence
that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing
capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec.8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a
brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation . And now he is miscalculating America's response to his
continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass
destruction.. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction is real."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


SO NOW THESE SAME DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE
NEVER
WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, AND THAT HE TOOK US TO WAR
UNECESSARILY

TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT THE PRESIDENT "LEADING US TO WAR".
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 10:52 AM
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1. Easy
That's why we had weapons inspectors. Bush was so hell-bent on invading that he didn't let them finish their job. Maybe he should have.....
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 10:53 AM
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2. The people making those statements
Saw the threat that Saddam represented and successfully contained him without sending our troops into Iraq to die and without bombing the hell out of Iraqi Civilians.

Bush, instead, chose to invade drastically increasing the danger to the United States and the our troops.

That's the difference

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 10:54 AM
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3. nice
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 10:54 AM
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4. The quotes are true.
They leave out one small detail though. We had removed the threat of Iraq's NBC weapons, Saddam, while not choosing peace, was not choosing war either and was no threat. Later quotes are based upon the lies Bush and his administration told Congress and that they sadly believed. While I fault them for not looking deeper into things, I can't fault them for being lied to.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 10:56 AM
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5. as far as the senate and house
all the dems who voted for the Iraq war voted on the intel given which was skewed.So when they say"Kerry and Edwards voted to go to war"well tell them they would never have gone if they didn't think there were nukes 45 minutes away from our #1 ally
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 10:58 AM
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6. I know your the type of guy
that will say something you don't mean just to piss people off. So this is one of my favorites: Go ahead, yuk it up. In three months you'll be sittin' in the back of the short buss. And we're gonna keep you there too.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 11:00 AM
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7. don't you hate it when new newbies post this crap?
sheesh, the trolls never learn. :)
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 11:08 AM
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11. LOL ..Yes it is the pits when these newbies do this stuff
Hey none of these people are in the Administration. They did their job just fine when they were in power. As far as I can determine all of this has happened on the Bush* Cabal's watch. Heard today that the CIA is saying there is very real evidence of another building terrorist attack on the same degree as 9-11 and the evidence is as compelling as it was previous to 9-11 so I guess it is time for everyone in the Administration to take a month long vacation.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 11:02 AM
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8. I've never heard ANY Democrat say there were "never any WMDs"
Straw man.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 11:03 AM
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9. OK
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity
to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

AND HE DID IT, WITH THE HELP OF THE UN.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is
clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

AND HE DID IT, WITH THE HELP OF THE UN.

"Iraq is a long way from , but what happens there matters a
great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

AND SO WE DISARMED SADDAM, WITH THE HELP OF THE UN.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten
times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

SO WE DISARMED HIM, WITH THE HELP OF THE UN.

"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with
the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI),
Tom Daschle (D-SD), John Kerry ( D - MA), and others Oct. 9, 1998

AND HE DID, AND DISARMED HIM. (Side note: The disarmament process went arm-in-arm with the threat and/or use of force against Iraq. This is why Kerry voted for the IWR. Inspections don't work in Saddam's Iraq without a big stick)

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of
mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

SO WE USED FORCE WHEN NECESSARY AND DISARMED HIM.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of
mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

SO WE DISARMED HIM, WITH THE HELP OF THE UN.

You're picking up the theme, I assume.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 11:12 AM
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12. And here's the proof:
"We had a good discussion, the Foreign Minister and I and the President and I, had a good discussion about the nature of the sanctions -- the fact that the sanctions exist -- not for the purpose of hurting the Iraqi people, but for the purpose of keeping in check Saddam Hussein's ambitions toward developing weapons of mass destruction. We should constantly be reviewing our policies, constantly be looking at those sanctions to make sure that they are directed toward that purpose. That purpose is every bit as important now as it was ten years ago when we began it. And frankly they have worked. He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors."
http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2001/933.htm

Powell ADMITTED that Clinton was successful.
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 11:03 AM
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10. I particularly like the first one
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity
to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them.
That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

Apparently Clinton was successful in that goal!

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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 11:13 AM
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13. Try This
"He (Saddam Hussein) has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors."
- Colin Powell, Secretary of State
February, 2001


"Saddam Hussein is bottled up at this point."
-- Dick Cheney, Vice President
Meet the Press, September 2001


"Saddam does not control the northern part of the country. We are able to keep his arms from him. His military forces have not been rebuilt."
-- Condoleeza Rice, National Security Advisor
July, 2001



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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 11:16 AM
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14. They lied to Congress too
Clinton bombed Iraq in 1998 and destroyed unknown amounts of production facilities and stockpiles. No inspectors were in the country after that. The intelligence that Senators made these claims on was intelligence that we now know was manipulated by Cheney and Rumsfeld's OSP. Cheney knew the yellowcake was a lie and never said anything about it. Let it go into the SOTU. They lied to Congress, the UN, the American people, the world.
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Commendatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 11:18 AM
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15. "At least those people used proper grammar and syntax, asshole." (n/t)
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westsidexview Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 11:41 AM
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16. no problem here
to be a political survivor one must play both sides of any issue at any time. the issue here is that bush is the president and he is responsible when military adventures go awry. democrats can seize upon the issue here and with the fickle nature of the voters, come election day we might win.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 04:01 PM
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18. Bush is not responsible, it was the CIAs fault
so stop saying that!

hey, did we mention Bill Clintoon got a blow job?
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Nile Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 11:45 AM
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17. Do not even dignify them with a response.
It is just not worth the time and effort.

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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 04:03 PM
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19. STILL fighting with him!!!
the latest is that Clinton Cut CIA Funding

course THIS from a guy who still says Ritter was lying and David Kay's report was "A CNN Generated Story" :eyes:
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dae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 04:14 PM
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20. You can always quote his favorite VP to him, and have him go F*
himself.
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