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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 08:57 PM
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This is SO F*CKING TRANSPARENT.
Edited on Thu Jul-15-04 09:01 PM by MallRat
From Josh Marshall's Talking Points Memo today:
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_07_11.php#003164

Sen. Roberts: War a mistake, fault of CIA.

That's how I interpret this paragraph from today's article in the New York Times.

    But in an hourlong interview on Wednesday morning in his office, Mr. Roberts said he was "not too sure" that the administration would have invaded if it had known how flimsy the intelligence was on Iraq and illicit weapons. Instead, the senator said, Mr. Bush might well have advocated efforts to maintain sanctions against Iraq and to continue to try to unearth the truth through the work of United Nations inspectors. "I don't think the president would have said that military action is justified right now," Mr. Roberts said. If the administration had been given "accurate intelligence," he said, Mr. Bush "might have said, 'Saddam's a bad guy, and we've got to continue with the no-fly zones and with inspections.' "


If you interpret it otherwise, let me know how.



NO! NO! NO! NO! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

PLEASE, PLEASE tell me the media isn't going to fall for this blatant scapegoat job the GOP is pulling on the CIA. PLEASE...

-MR
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 08:58 PM
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1. They already have
I'm sorry :-(
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:03 PM
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2. Cheney bullied the CIA into producing the "evidence" he wanted (nt)
nt
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:05 PM
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3. We know this. They know this. EVERYBODY knows this.
So why aren't they REMINDING people on a constant basis?

This is revisionism of the worst kind: see-through, ridiculous denial of fact.

And they're not being called on it!

:argh: :nuke:
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:10 PM
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4. Hard to buy when one after another from this admin have written books
detailing that they were focused on it well before 9/11, and pressured everyone to connect Iraq and Osama. But unless the White House pre-packages the damning evidence themselves as news releases it won't be aired or investigated. So yea the media will probably settle for it.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:25 PM
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7. You're right
unfortunately. God, our media is a DISGRACE!!!!:-(
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:11 PM
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5. Congratulations! You found the first TRANSPARENT thing in this
FUBAR administration.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:23 PM
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6. Paul O'Neill was shocked when the first meeting dealt with Iraq.
Richard Clarke was demoted and couldn't get anyone to think about alQaeda. Joe Wilson, currently being maligned by the cabal, told them in no uncertain terms the phony lies about Niger. Tenet would not let the speech writers put it in the Cincy speech so they go ahead and put it in the SOTU; then make Tenet the fall guy. Etc.
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abcdan Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:38 PM
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8. This is a good thing!
The important thing is that the Senator and others are admitting that the Iraq War was a MISTAKE! Do you think the country's going to forgive the president for taking us to war by mistake? The buck stops with the president--ultimately it was his decision.

Plus, Bush has not and will never admit that going to war was a mistake--even though the rest of the country (media and Republican politicians, too) are coming to that conclusion. This, too, is a good thing!
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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:44 PM
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9. No, it's most certainly not!
We all need to start writing LTTE's and calling talk shows and sending letters and e-mails to media and tell them this is BULLSHIT!

Cheney (and Bush and Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz and the whole lot of them) were BEHIND the Office of Special Plans, which was the PRIMARY SOURCE of all the disinfo fed to Congress!

Don't accept this snowjob! Please!
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YIMA Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:48 PM
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10. How?
I want to believe, but how?

All the reports coming out are saying that other countries had the same intel on Iraq regarding WMD's. How are the people going to blame * when it appears from what they're hearing he had information from all over that said Saddam possessed WMD's? Even this guy is saying if * had accurate info, he would have acted differently.

I'm getting very discouraged.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 10:01 PM
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11. Obvious snowjob but what's really going on here???
Edited on Thu Jul-15-04 10:03 PM by Sugarbleus
why did so many other nations say they felt like the guy had nasty stuff over there too???????? I smell a rat. Something isn't right but I don't know what the gig is......who's in bed with who and why (internationally I mean)?

Additionally, WHY are Kerry and Edwards STILL continuing with the Iraq war was only mishandled bit?????? I'm sick to my stomach.

Where's the big stinky rat Icon <insert here>
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 10:05 PM
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12. The shrub is once again teflon coated in crisco
and Senator Roberts just gave him his get out of jail free card. I'm going to be hopeful and believe that this aint gonna fly. Maybe we've reached the point of where people can't take any more of the lies.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 10:19 PM
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13. None of that will hold water because
it's the administration's duty to see to it the intel is verified before doing something as drastic as going to war. If it didn't, it was derelict in its duty.
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