"The high office of President has been used to foment a plot "

[Pallas180]

The high office of President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American's freedom and before I leave office I must inform the Citizen of his plight."
~ President John F. Kennedy -Assassinated 10 days later!




PLAME INDICTMENTS THREAD 8 -High Crimes & Misdemeanors

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1. What was he talking about?

[RoyGBiv]

2. Federal Reserve

Supposedly.

This quote is a part of one string of the conspiracy theory (phrase not used with intended negative connotations) surrounding his assassination. There's some doubt whether he actually said this; there's no recording, IOW.

My understanding: Before his death, Kennedy had issued an executive order that created a United States Note, backed by silver. This was intended to replace Federal Reserve Notes, backed by nothing tangible. The "plot" revolved around the FR controlling the money supply and increasingly the likelihood of catastrophic debt accumulation.

Those US Notes that had been issued were officially taken out of circulation immediately following his assassination, and no President since JFK has enforced his order.

Corrections welcomed. This is off the top of my head.

[rman]

3. quotes from other sources on the matter

all troughout history, senile old men(* have been talking about the corruption of government and the banking system:


~350BC - Aristotle
"The trade of the petty usurer is hated with most reason: it makes a profit from currency itself, instead of making it from the process which currency was meant to serve. Their common characteristic is obviously their sordid avarice."


1818 - US President Thomas Jefferson
"I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."


1829 - US President Andrew Jackson
"You (the Bankers) are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the grace of the eternal God, I will rout you out.
If Congress has the right under the Constitution to issue paper money, it was given to be used by themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations."


1836 - US President Andrew Jackson
"The bold effort the present (central) bank (second Federal Bank) had made to control the government ... are but premonitions of the fate that await the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it."


1864 - US President Abraham Lincoln (assasinated)
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching. It unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."


~1880 - Chancelor Otto Von Bismarck
"The death of Lincoln was a disaster. I fear that foreign bankers with their craftiness and tortuous tricks will entirely control the exuberant riches of America and use it to systematically corrupt modern civilization. They will not hesitate to plunge the whole of (humanity) into war and chaos in order that the earth shall become their inheritance."


1920 - President of The Bank of England Sir Josiah Stamp, at the University of Texas
"The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astounding piece of sleight-of-hand that was ever invented.
Banking was conceived in iniquity, and was born in sin. The Bankers own the Earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits and with the flick of the pen, they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it (the power to create deposits) away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear, and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But if you wish to remain the slaves of Bankers, and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits."


1920 - Writer Maynard Keynes, in "Economic Consequences of the Peace"
"By a continuous process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens. By this method, they not only confiscate, but they confiscate arbitrarily; and while the process impoverishes many, it actually enriches some. The process engages all of the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner that not one man in a million can diagnose."


1933 - US President Franklin D. Roosevelt
"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson. History depicts Andrew Jackson as the last truly honorable and incorruptible American US President."


1935 - Robert Hemphill, Credit Manager of Federal Reserve Bank
"This is a staggering thought. We are completely dependent on the commercial Banks. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in circulation, cash or credit. If the Banks create ample synthetic money we are prosperous; if not, we starve. We are absolutely without a permanent money system. When one gets a complete grasp of the picture, the tragic absurdity of our hopeless position is almost incredible, but there it is. It is the most important subject intelligent persons can investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it becomes widely understood and the defects remedied very soon."


1954 - Senator William Jenner
"Today the path to total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by Congress, the President, or the people. Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government, a bureacratic elite which believes our Constitution is outmoded and is sure that it is the winning side. All the strange developments in foreign policy agreements may be traced to this group who are going to make us over to suit their pleasure. This political action group has its own local political support organizations, its own pressure groups, its own vested interests, its foothold within our government, and its own propaganda apparatus."


1957 - George W. Mallone, U.S. Senator, speaking before Congress
"I believe that if the people of this nation fully understood what Congress has done to them over the last 49 years, they would move on Washington; they would not wait for an election... It adds up to a preconceived plan to destroy the economic and social independence of the United States!"


1964 - Wright Patman, US Congress
"The dollar represents a one dollar debt to the Federal Reserve System. The Federal Reserve Banks create money out of thin air to buy Government Bonds from the U.S. Treasury, and has created out of nothing a debt which the American people are obliged to pay with interest."



*) "sinile old men": i'm being cynical here, pre-emptively providing an argument for those who'd want to deny the significance of what these men had to say.

[Disturbed]

4. Almost true

"1864 - US President Abraham Lincoln (assasinated)

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching. It unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."

Amerika is a Plutocracy and Lincoln's prediction although it took a few humdred years is real close to being a reality. Another term of BushCo and it will be a reality.

[Devils Advocate NZ]

5. What do you mean "almost"?

How did Bush take power if the US wasn't ALREADY a plutocracy?

We live in an artificial reality, where what we think is happening is NOT what is actually happening. Sure, every now and then we get a glimpse of the truth behind the facade, but thanks to the media and social conditioning, when we DO see the truth, we don't recognise it for what it is.

This is NOT new. This has been going on for a long time. It is time we took the red pill...