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Fri Jul-16-04 01:42 PM
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Why do Republicans dislike strong women so? |
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They despise Hillary. They lead to the firing of Whoopi Goldberg. And, they are attacking Rep. Corinne Brown. What's up with this?
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Fri Jul-16-04 01:44 PM
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1. They think that women should be in the kitchen... or cleaning the house |
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Fri Jul-16-04 01:44 PM
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2. They DO have a distaste for strong women |
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However, even if you turned all of the above into men, I guarantee they'd still hate them.
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Fri Jul-16-04 01:44 PM
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3. Your question is flawed. |
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Fri Jul-16-04 01:47 PM
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4. There's a difference between like and use. |
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They like women, they have enough affairs to keep the gossip media churning full time. They just don't like women who get out of their place.
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Fri Jul-16-04 01:48 PM
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6. and yet so many of them seem to frequently require the service |
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Fri Jul-16-04 01:52 PM
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You are using a biased opinion to cover a large group of people. As always using a bias like that immedaitely makes your question flawed and all but useless.
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Fri Jul-16-04 03:47 PM
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23. They have a double standard |
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Edited on Fri Jul-16-04 03:56 PM by oldcoot
Strong women are okay as long as they agree with the party line. This is the reason they like Ann and Condi. Ann gets even more bonus points because she is willing and eager to bash other women (especially feminists). The Republicans can use her to attack other women without appearing to be a bunch of sexist males.
Once the strong woman in question challenges any aspect of the party line, then they start to vilify her.
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Fri Jul-16-04 04:24 PM
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...since they do the same with celebrities, reguardless of gender, who disagree with them, the common people too, et. al. it isn't the strong women they are attacking but people who oppose them period.
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Fri Jul-16-04 01:52 PM
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9. They use Ann and Condi |
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Both are too stupid to realize that, although they think they are very smart. Same goes for Karen Hughes, Laura Ingram and others. What intelligent, strong woman could support the policies of this Administration?
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Fri Jul-16-04 01:55 PM
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Thanks for using logic and fact to prove me wrong. I am so happy now to tow the party line. :roll:
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Fri Jul-16-04 01:57 PM
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14. Not a criticism of you... |
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Its just my personal opinion of women like this.
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Fri Jul-16-04 02:02 PM
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My "be an asshole" trigger is set a little sensitive today. :)
I still believe that using such a broad statement for a group as large and diverse as the Republican Party is a bad thing. It is immedaitely flawed adn therefore subject to being torn apart by logic and examination.
I don't disagree there are some in the Conservtie house who hate strong women, but it would be valid to say there are some in the Democratic Party and the Liberal house that do as well.
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Fri Jul-16-04 04:14 PM
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I've read several of your posts recently (this thread and the thread re African-American Cabinet members) and I have agreed wholeheartedly.
I'm new to DU and enjoy the many facets of this message board, but find the broad statements and double standards annoying.
Thanks for pointing these out.
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Fri Jul-16-04 04:22 PM
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35. You may not want to publically align yourself with me. |
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I tend to become very unpopular becasue I point these things out. But I gotta be me.
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Fri Jul-16-04 01:47 PM
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that women have decided to demonstrate "strength" by imitating men's "strength" which is flawed and draws fire from people of both genders. Female energy is different from male energy (energy NOT gender...we are all blends) and has it's own manifestations of "strength". When more PEOPLE (men AND women) understand female/yin energy strength and utilize it, we will indeed be in a better place.
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Fri Jul-16-04 02:11 PM
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20. Now where have I heard that argument before? |
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I knew your words sounded familiar.
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Fri Jul-16-04 03:36 PM
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I didn't DISCOVER taoism! haaahaha...was the mkuhl link for me to look at?
Also, I do not mean be passive about the change any more than a woman is "passive" during birth (another thing that will "just happen anyway"). Be active, help the change come about, but for goodness' sake don't base strength on what MEN do!
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Fri Jul-16-04 03:40 PM
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22. You practice a strange taoism |
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The mkuhl link is for everyone to look at, as it is always in my signiture line. He posts here, albeit rather infrequently and I happen to know him quite well.
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Fri Jul-16-04 03:50 PM
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24. not a practitioner, really |
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just an eclectic mystic. taoism has helped me recognize that our polemic universe goes through mighty cycles that we have no written history about. One of these cycles is the pendulous nature of yin dominant/yang dominant in the middle is perfect balance (attained for milliseconds or less before drifting...). We are either at the extreme end of yang dominant or just barely heading back towards balance. This is why there has been so much progress in these past few decades in acknowledging not only women, but other yin related topics as sacred and necessary. In time, harmony will get closer and closer with only an extreme minority of people still locked into disrespect. Then a millisecond of perfect harmony. Then we will go yin dominant, which will be paradisiacal at first but eventually degenerate into much disrespect for the yang and men. At the furthest extreme will be abuse of yin power at the expense of yang and then we will head back...
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Fri Jul-16-04 01:48 PM
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... the head of the woman is the man...
Some women just don't know their place is to be submissive.
/sarcasm
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Fri Jul-16-04 01:51 PM
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8. Because most of them are smarter than Republican men... |
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in many ways, they truly are. And, they are much more open to new ideas as well.
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Fri Jul-16-04 01:56 PM
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Fri Jul-16-04 01:57 PM
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13. Damn! That was my answer. n/t |
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Fri Jul-16-04 02:10 PM
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healthy men who love women and who love themselves and who have happy sex lives don't hate Hillary. Men who are angry and dissatisfied and unfulfilled in their lives need a reason for their failures. They blame women. But not themselves. Women don't respect them. Women don't love them. Women earn more money than they do. Women leave them. Women expect them to pay child support. They're small minded and small membered. Literally and figuratively. Avoid these men. Their anger is toxic and inflammable.
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Fri Jul-16-04 02:00 PM
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15. Because we tend to be Liberals?? |
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Fri Jul-16-04 02:01 PM
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16. It upsets their illusions |
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I'd rather say "right extremists" than Republicans. In that case:
Their whole philosophy is based on them being right, them being strongest, them being most beloved of their God. They are white men. Women have a supporting role, followed by foreigners, brown people, and then blacks.
A strong, self reliant woman proves them to be wrong. Thus she must be evil, thus she must be mercilessly devalued.
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Fri Jul-16-04 02:06 PM
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18. They are all insecure |
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with their tiny penis. Same reason you see so many Bush stickers on SUV's.
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Fri Jul-16-04 03:54 PM
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25. Because they're weak, stupid, ignorant, |
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cruel, selfish, little, little men with very small penises.
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Fri Jul-16-04 03:59 PM
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26. cause "we" arent intimidated by them |
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makes them feel little without the intimidation factor. i take it back to the mom issue. so small looking up at mom. a man that has a loving and caring and supportive and kind mom is more likely to see a woman as an equal no desire to intimidate or take power
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Fri Jul-16-04 04:00 PM
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27. teresa hienz kerry too |
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Fri Jul-16-04 04:01 PM
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Edited on Fri Jul-16-04 04:01 PM by Beware the Beast Man
That's the reason! :P They are the most insecure buch of ninnies, and they have to take it out on strong-minded women.
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Fri Jul-16-04 04:08 PM
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I keep remembering the sister of the lady of the Manor. In real life, she was a single woman with a good career - a very happy lady. Once she had to assume the ways of the Manor House, every decision was made for her by her sister's husband. She could not go outside, ride her bike, nothing.
She finally began to have a "nervous breakdown" at which point they sent her to a spa. This was the custom of the day. When the women began to rebel, off to the spa they went where lord knows what they did to them to keep them in line.
Ah, the good old days. Republicanville.
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Fri Jul-16-04 04:16 PM
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31. It's NOT just Republicans |
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There are very few in this world, in any culture, who willingly tolerate "strong women" unless the toe some line or other...
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Fri Jul-16-04 04:16 PM
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32. Strong women scare them, because they laugh at them |
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and know they are adolescent childish impotent little turds.
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Fri Jul-16-04 04:17 PM
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33. It's NOT just Republicans |
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There are very few in this world, in any culture, who willingly tolerate "strong women" unless they toe some line or other... The few who manage are truly exceptions.
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Fri Jul-16-04 04:18 PM
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34. it's got something to do with the word "cleave" whatever that means |
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I think it means "shut up and do the dishes before I smak you beeotch--oh and bring me a beer."
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Fri Jul-16-04 04:24 PM
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36. My deceased dad was a racist, he was a poor factory worker |
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but he had to have someone lower on the totem than he felt he was so he could feel good about himself.
Repubs treat women like that I think. Basically they are unsure of their status or manhood so they have to keep women down to prove to themselves that they are OK. Strong women remind them that they are really insecure little boys. Homophobic folks act in similar ways for similar reasons against gays.
Now a racist, right wing, strong woman hating, homophobic, male is a real piece of work. He is a real poster boy for insecurity.
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Fri Jul-16-04 04:30 PM
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38. Maybe because so many Repubs align with Christian evangelism ideals? |
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I don't know, just taking a guess.
Honestly, I don't think it has anything to do with being "underendowed," shall we say. Although it does make for good jokes, it's probably unfair to the DU gentlemen whom nature did not favor with above-average pogo sticks. :)
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Fri Jul-16-04 04:32 PM
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39. Some FauxKneeJerk LIberal men can't stand them either |
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It's not just Republicans--I wish to God it were.
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