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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 02:43 PM
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The BBV issue would not be what it is today without DU!
I would like to shout out for all to hear that the very important issue of Black Box Voting would not be as big as it is today if it was not for folks at The Democratic Underground.

I followed this issue from the very beginning when it was just a baby and witnessed HUNDREDS of DUers nurture it to the monster it TODAY!

I myself participated by reading 1000's of posts and by sending hundreds of emails to politicians and the press. AND I mean hundreds of emails.

But... I still consider myself a minor player to the likes of DemA, Eloriel, Rebecca, David (Pub) and so many others who have made huge sacrifices for the cause.

I would be immature and silly if I did not mention Bev Harris. There's no denial that Bev was the spearhead for this courageous cause and no matter how I feel about certain things now, she was the leader, no doubt!

But this post isn't about Bev nor the events that have taken place recently in BBV land. NO...this post is about the unsung hero's of DU...The behind the scene folks who sent the emails or goggled their asses off for info to shape this important story.

There are those out there who will call us names, commies, conspiracy theorists, wackos,,,, I say "Cheney off" assholes. We will prevail and we will prevail because of the likes of the Democratic Underground.

GOD BLESS AMERICA! ;-)
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 02:48 PM
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1. I agree 100%.
The division now saddens me. The movement was so focused. I know that people have been hurt. I hope that everyone is able to set aside their differences for the CAUSE. I hope that the back-stabbing stops.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 02:52 PM
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2. Hurrah for the True Patriots and Heroes of the BBV Movement!
:toast: :toast: :toast:

Win or lose. Whether we restore the Old American Republic or finish transforming it a Therocratic Orwellian Totalitarian Tyranny, ALL Free Americans (and even the many Imperial Subjects of Amerika, though they don't know it) owe all of you a debt we can never repay...
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 02:57 PM
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3. Not only Du'ers
Thanks to you all.

But let's also remember those who are not on DU at all, yet have asked to be on email lists and who respond to the voting issue all the time.

There are many more people out there beyond the bounds of DU.

No doubt, hats off to DU'ers for their work on this issue.

I just happen to have lists of people working their fingers to the bone on this issue, and who also research and contribute, who do not belong.

Everyone, inside or outside of DU, who cares about their country, cares and works about the voting machine issue.

My thanks to them all.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 02:59 PM
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4. Good point. I agree wholheartedly!
:toast: :toast:
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 03:03 PM
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6. Second that.
n/t
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 03:05 PM
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7. Agreed.,.. But I only know DU
Edited on Fri Jul-16-04 03:05 PM by trumad
I know DU more than my wife and kids... I have sex with DU... Tom_Paine is really my cyber brother even tough he thinks I'm a freep. Elad, Skinner and Earl are my parents,,, IT's all I know!

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 03:12 PM
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9. The post originated at bartcop in Sept 2002. I brought it here from there.
Edited on Fri Jul-16-04 03:57 PM by blm
So big thanks goes to pancho at bartcop and all the bartcoppers who also first pushed it along with DU. bartcoppers and DUers are always on top of everything.

btw...it was Faun Otter who crunched most of the numbers and already had over 400 pages of research before most of us ever heard the name Diebold. Some of you may remember his Diebold link on bartcop's main page.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 03:14 PM
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10. Props to you BLM...
BTW: Has Shirley called Bart yet?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 03:02 PM
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5. BBV and PNAC. DUers were tops in getting the information circulated.
Edited on Fri Jul-16-04 03:07 PM by oasis
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 03:10 PM
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8. Indeed! Cheers to the true patriots here that are working to keep
our cornerstone of democracy firmly in place.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 03:41 PM
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11. in 21 months
BBV went from non-existant except for tech jounrnals and the odd news story to a weekly occurence.

DU acted as the materinty ward, nurturing the fledgling movement and providing the resources it need to learn and expand

My profound gratitude to Skinner et al at DU for putting up with us.

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