Man I hate the breed of cons like hitchens, sullivan, et al....

[vi5]

What prompted this was stumbling upon the name of Cathy Seipp and reading some of her work. I had never heard of or read her before. But she seems to be yet another one of these people like Sullivan, Hitchens, Horowitz, etc.who at one point was liberal and probably still has one or two issues that could be considered liberal, but despite that are at some point drawn to conservatism out of what seems like an all consuming hatred of something or other. The common thread amongst these yahoos seems to be their deep seated understanding of "islamofascism".

I think I loathe conservatives of this ilk more than the brainless redneck twit conservative freeper types. At least I can chalk them up to ignorance or lack of education. But to read the ramblings of these holier than though nitwits try and intellectuallize and contextualize their hatred just makes me sick.

Is their a name for these types? Is this the true definition of neo-con?

[Doctor_J]

1. have snitch or sully weighed in on the war crimes?

i refuse to read or listen to any of their stuff, but i wonder how they're dealing with the torture stories.

[baldguy]

2. They do have a point....

bin Laden, Saddam and their ilk ARE fascists. But that doesn't mean that the US and other western nations need to be just as fascistic or more so in order to beat them. When we were fighting the Axis Powers on WWII, we didn't lose our Bill of Rights.

[Hoping4Change]

3. The person who sums up Hichens is his former friend

Norman Finklestein in the following article.

If you are not familiar with Finklestein he is a Rrinceton professor who wrote the highly controversial but IMHO brilliant book called The Holocost Industry. He is loathed by Zionist's but his creditials for slamming what he refers to as the Holacost Industry are impeccable given that both his parents are concentration camp survivors and supported his work.

Anyway he had been friends with Hitchens since college so his trashing of Hitchens has teeth.

snip

"Below is an excerpt from the memoir on the subject of political apostasy. The title refers to how ex-leftist Christopher Hitchens used to sign off his correspondence. "Fraternally yours, Chris"

snip

For many years Hitchens awed readers with his formidable control over the English language. Now his ego delights in testing whether, through sheer manipulation of words, he can pass off flatulent emissions as bouquets. It perhaps would be funny watching fatuous readers fawn over gibberish - were not human life at stake.

snip

for Hitchens it's also lucrative nonsense that he's peddling. It's not exactly a martyr's fate defecting from The Nation, a frills-free liberal magazine, to Atlantic Monthly, the well-heeled house organ of Zionist crazies. Although Kissinger affected to be a "solitary, gaunt hero," Hitchens says, in reality he was just a "corpulent opportunist." It sounds familiar.

[Fenris]

6. Got a link?

[Hoping4Change]

7. Here's the link.

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/id138.htm

[liberalhistorian]

4. What was particularly sickening was

Hitchens's reference to the Lila Lipscomb segments in F9/11 as "nauseating." That, to me, was the final straw as far as Hitchens was concerned. He and his ilk were and are so fucking gung-ho for the invasion of a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 and had no WMD and posed no other danger to us (it would be like if we had invaded Madagascar instead of Japan after being attacked by the Japanese at Pearl Harbor), yet couldn't care less about the human cost of their war cheerleading.

And they expect the families of those who've died and those who are serving and have served to toe a certain line and when they don't, when they don't act sufficiently grateful to Our Great Leader who sent them off to serve and die for a lie and to further his own political agenda and ambitions and actually express grief and anger instead of kowtowing, they're called unpatriotic and nauseating and all kinds of other sickening stuff. And this from people like Hitchens who've never suffered that kind of loss and never will. Now THAT is what's TRULY "nauseating."

[librechik]

5. I believe the technical term is

delusional cheneytards