Mario Cuomo: "Bush did not mislead....

[dennis4868]

he was misled by the CIA"

Yep, that is what he said tonight on the O'Reilly show on FOX! Almost fell out of my chair....how the F does he know that Bush did not mislead...at the very least, even thre Senate Intelligence commitee last week implied that Bush did mislead with regards to an al Qaeda/Saddam link...plus, if he would have done his homework there is plenty of evidence that Bush did lie and exxagerate the threat (as stated in the NIE) from Iraq (i.e., unmanned aerial vehicles, nuclear weapons reconstituted, mushroom cloud, ignoring many other intellignce agencies doubts about Iraq's WMD, yellowcake from Niger, that Saddam would give WMD to terrorist, etc...). Basically, The CIA lied about WMD and then Bush went even further with his own lies and exxagerations.....why don't all dems see it this way...It is so damn obvious...makes me sick!

Who needs Dems like Cuomo!!!

[donhakman]

1. To repeat the party line like that means one thing...

He may be running again!

[MichiganVote]

2. Errr....

Correct my logic Cuomo but if the CIA mislead Bush, would it be possible for him to do anything BUT mislead the public in turn?

Should have stuck with the truth, Bush lied. Pure and simple.

[still_one]

3. If it came from O'Reilly

he must have edited the tape.

O'Reilly is not live, and is notorious for editing his show before it is shown.

I will only believe it if Cumo says it on a different network...

I am not kidding about this...

[faithnotgreed]

9. im with you on this one. mario tells it as it is (when hes not edited)

[SoDesuKa]

4. What's Cuomo Running For?

Probably not elected office. Supreme Court?

[goclark]

7. Hope he didn't say that

I saw Cuomo on TV last week. He was nt supportive of Bush at all.
He was on for about an hour discussing hs book about Lincoln.

[TA]

26. It was on the Tim Russert show, I saw it too

There was definitely no love or support for Bush. It was all negative Bush and he also put Russert down for his and the medias non-action during the lead up to the Iraq war. This has got to be O'Liely cutting and pasting the interview for his slant. O'Liely is a piece of shit, lets give Cuomo and chance to respond.

[burrowowl]

5. Bu$h did not

mislead, he cheneying LIED!

[Kerry_da_man]

6. Under a doctor's care

Cuomo has either lost his mind or he's on drugs.

[charlyvi]

8. You don't know how FOX edited the interview.

O'Reilly is notorious for editing interviews to change a point of view.

Read This:

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040719&s=coleweb


Was the interview live or taped?

[dennis4868]

13. Actually....

it was a taped interview.....

[Caution]

10. honestly beginning to wonder

if those in power arent engaging in damage control now. US standing in the world has taken a huge hit as a result of the criminal practices of Bush and his cronies. Can US standing both abroad and at home survive the kind of disaster that would result if it were accepted that the President of the United States had started a war of agression and had flat out lied to get us there?

At some point does a line have to be drawn just to protect the US and us as citizens?

Or is it as simple as the Dems not wanting to peak too early. Bring it all out in Sept/Oct for maximum impact on the election. Things have been slowly building over the past six months and now it seems to be hitting the Republican Party as a whole. In the past couple of weeks alone, a major campaign issue flopped miserably, Delay has hit serious trouble, they completely lost all hope against Obama, Cheney had his Senate incident, the numbers are falling steadily in most races for the GOP, there was no real bump for Bush in the sham handover, Blair is under fire in Britain, they are losing allies in Iraq left and right, Schwarzenegger is now having problems in CA, the Ditka fiasco, their support of Nader appears to be backfiring, the Diebold suits being filed by BBV, the apparent heating up of the Plame affair, the indictment of Ken Lay, the fact that Dems are drawing more money right now and I'm sure I'm missing some things.

Either way, the question I'm asking is whether or not the Dems aren't trying to simply do damage control over American credibility as a whole.

Just a rambling thought.

[bermudat]

14. So what if Bush lied to get us into a war?

Who is going to impeach him? The repugnantcan controlled house? Will the SCOTUS allow any charges to stick to him? No, by a vote of 5-4. Will the media go after bush with the same veracity as they did Clinton? Will any of the cable networks show bush in anything but a saintly light? Most of the American sheeple could give a rat's ass about world opinion or US standing abroad, since most of them have never left the US. As usual, he gets away scot free, again. and no one loses their job over it either.

[dennis4868]

16. Sadly....

I agree with you...6 years ago the entire media was in a uprour because Clinton lied about a BJ....now they are quiet about a lie that caused the death of almost 900 US soldiers and thousands of innocent people in Iraq :-(

[charlyvi]

11. He may have said:

"The Senate Intelligence Report states that Bush did not mislead, he was misled by the CIA, but I don't agree". Only O'Reilly may have edited the "I don't agree" part. Or something like that. I can't believe Cuomo would turn like that.

[dennis4868]

15. I saw it...

Cuomo SAID THIS...."I do not believe Bush mislead the country; Bush was mislead." Graaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!

[dennis4868]

12. more evidence....

CIA says that Saddam did not yet have a nuclear weapon

Bush says Saddam MIGHT have a nuclear weapon

CIA says that Saddam had a development program for biological weapons.

Bush says that Saddam was maintaining a massive stockpile of biological weapons.

CIA says Saddam may be developing UAV (Air Force said not developing UAVs)

Bush says that Saddam has a growing fleet of UAVs that could be used to strike the homeland.

CIA says that there is no connection between Saddam and al Qaeda/911

Bush implies over and over that there is such a connection.

CIA says that Saddam would not give WMD to terrorist.

Bush says Saddam will give WMD to terrorist.

SO BUSH DID NOT MISLEAD THE COUNTRY MR. CUOMO?

[donhakman]

18. now wait a minute, Cuomo may be right

since it was Cheney and the pre installed Reagan era neocon cabinet that pressured the CIA and pipelined every unconfirmed CIA report to the White House through a newly formed office in the Pentagon that was named the Office of Special Operations.

Technically the statement that Bush was misled is true since all the mechanations are beyond the W intellect anyway.

[grytpype]

17. Incredible that Bush does not take responsibility for his war!

His desire for war with Iraq predated any of this so-called misleading intelligence!!!!!!!!!!!!

[donhakman]

20. God may ultimately take the wrap.

?

[PATRICK]

19. Our New York gurus

from any party, responsible from Cuomo's time for two decades plus of ruinously late state budgets and incumbency flimflam, are an unprintable joke.

I was going to list the ones in the past week who pride their wisdom above party, loyalty and common sense with the obvious need to punish their own party first for not deifying them.

Unerringly wrong, stupid, loud and removed from their own parties. Too bad there is no third party in the state to humiliate these disgruntled elders. Politically blind, out of touch, too self important. They fit right in with any media pundit but with no one else. No one.

Booted out pols in NY are reject material and if they emerge to vent you will easily see why.

[Cats Against Frist]

25. I don't understand this

I've seen Cuomo on three shows, and not only is he the most persuasive speaker, he's also made the best case for the left that is currently floating out there -- it is near brilliant, in fact, and I think any freeper would find it hard to argue with him.

That said, I don't know why he said this. Maybe to some extent it is true?

[dennis4868]

27. See Post #12 in this thread please

:-)

[PATRICK]

28. Because of falling short

in typical NY fashion. The very basis of his appeal and authority is what makes the old guard obsolete in our state. Otherwise he would never have be beaten by Pataki(yeechh) or brushed away from the presidency or so prone to utter the brilliant boners of which this is one glamorous example. Or, like the others, having had no influence in recapturing the state that nearly always votes liberal Dem nationally.

Of course he is better than the Right? What decent person or brain isn't?
It's the pontificating that we in the Upstate region especially find particularly groan-worthy as we labor hopelessly in tweedledee-dum Albany deadlock, wasting away our potential.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

21. Wasn't Colin Powell Aware Of The 10 Year Old Student Thesis

from which he quoted during his speech to the UN? I thought that was outed even before we went into Iraq. That discredited, out-of-date treatise apparently contained much of the factual foundation for the Neocon argument for the military adventure, didn't it? Or is my memory tricking me?

[dennis4868]

24. Nope....

that is how I remember things as well.

[unkachuck]

22. Hey Mario, gumba.....

....what'sa matta you? Howa coma you talka like dees? You no makea no sense.....I'ma gonna tella you Mamma.....

(don't get excited....I'm Italian)

[donhakman]

23. it bears repeating

since it was Cheney and the pre installed Reagan era neocon cabinet that pressured the CIA and pipelined every unconfirmed CIA report to the White House through a newly formed office in the Pentagon that was named the Office of Special Operations.

Technically the statement that Bush was misled is true since all the mechanations are beyond the W intellect anyway.

[PATRICK]

30. Bush demanded to be misled

and perhaps didn't care enough that someone would have to be called into account. But boy was he ever ready for blame evasion.

The war was a done deal. Even Congress demanded that somehow Saddam be unseated. Usually the CIA underlying purpose is to do such things WITHOUT WAR. The predetermination of war by Bush is the issue being evaded and sidelined. If the UN had gone along there would have been someone else to "take the responsibility", but not those who made the decision long before.

The CIA fall into the trap of complicity is a fatal error, but not the unfingered crime. Would they have prevented war? Doubtful. The mandate to get rid of Saddam had already sucked in the Congress and Intel to the nearly transparent Bush scheme. They were already tricked long before they sexed up the dossier.

You have GOP congressmen now taking bullets for the war gods to divert attention away from the real criminals.(We were wrong to believe the Iraqi exiles!!! Well, THEY were not the CIA were they?)

[bvar22]

29. So the republican defense is:

bush* is not a LIAR, he is merely an incompetent president who was easily duped by those liars in the CIA!

Either way you slice it, bush* is not fit to be the leader of the free world!
We NEED a SMARTER president.

[dennis4868]

31. HE IS A LIAR....

See my post #12....It is very obvious Bush was saying things that did not come from any NIE or any other intelligence agency/report...he was making shit up and the media loved it! I do not want to hear anyone say Bush was mislead or Bush is too stupid to know he was misleading....he was not duped....he was part of the cabal in the WH that took part in the lie to America! Bush wanted to take Saddam out long before 911 and only needed the "evidence" to do it....he got it, said things to the people of this country that was not supported by the facts.....that my friends is a LIE!

[bvar22]

32. I agree with you.

bush* lied the US into an unnecessary and ill advised invasion and occupation of Iraq.

My above post was a response to those sheep who insist the the boy king* is not a liar. OK, if bush* is not a LIAR, he must be an incompetent dupe.

Unfortunately, the same can be said for Democratics who went along with the LIE.

[dennis4868]

35. Unfortunately, the same can be said for Democratics who went along with...

I disagree with this statement.

First of all no Dem put undue pressure on CIA analyst to make shit up about WMD in Iraq (THERE IS NO PROOF THAT dem went down to the CIA 20 times to talk to CIA analyst like captain fuck off (aka Cheney)....also, no dem exxaggerated and lied above and beyond what was in any NIE or intelligence report before the war regarding Iraq's WMD.

[stickdog]

33. The buck stops THERE!

[ibegurpard]

34. Nice of Democrats to carry water for him.

And to think there was a time when many considered this man to be the savior of the Democratic Party.

[dennis4868]

36. The problem is.....

that to know the truth about Bush lieing about WMD you have to really do your homework to get to the bottom of it....most dems wont bother to read Bush's statements before the war and base that against the evidence/NIE...in todays so called liberal media world you cannot trust the media and have to figure out what the true story is by working for it....or at least watch John Stewart.