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Sat Jul-17-04 09:30 AM
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Cheney says "Principle is okay up to a certain point, |
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Edited on Sat Jul-17-04 09:39 AM by schoolteacherpam
but it doesn't do you any good if you lose" ... Vice president FU
this guy is worse than slime.
May his ticker give out in an excruciating way slowly and painfully after November 2nd
stress from losing the election and bushy boy crying
"dicky, you promised you would pay off all the right people"
Did I mention I am reading Worse than Watergate? It is a MUST read and an eye opener
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Sat Jul-17-04 09:40 AM
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the lengths cheney goes to for money...business over sanctions, lies and more...
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Sat Jul-17-04 10:09 AM
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11. He must be revered by the upper crust |
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They have their own sweet wink, wink, nudge, nudge society. The rugged individual was never about winning with innovative ideas. It was about knowing how to cheat the system without getting caught. They did that effectively by buying the legal system and creating a rabbit patch. Rabbit patches are grown by farmers who hope the rabbits will focus on the rabbit patch instead of the main crop. So, street crime became a rabbit patch in the 80s. The definition of crime just changed with Reagan. Crime was a black man or woman of little or no means, a migrant worker or hispanic who would mug you on the street and through social services. And while the Republican constituents were focused on the rabbit patch, Cheney and his ilk just reaped one success after the other, and continued to buy judges, lawyers and politicians.
They don't need the Rabbit Patch anymore. Now the Republican's method is just to bribe everyone with federal grant money. That's what's behind the faith based initiative and just about every executive order that includes money. It's a self-generating system. Because once the people are bought, they stay bought.
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Sat Jul-17-04 09:41 AM
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Sat Jul-17-04 09:43 AM
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Worse than Watergate...It is a MUST REad
second chapter
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Sat Jul-17-04 09:43 AM
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3. Principles never win elections. |
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Votes do. Always remember that.
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Sat Jul-17-04 09:44 AM
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5. No, it's who counts the votes. |
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Why are you running around DU preaching so much BS? :shrug:
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Sat Jul-17-04 09:49 AM
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Worse than Watergate.
it will send shivers up your spine.
MM is right the MEDIA is completey missing
if Clinton had tried to pull the bullshit these guys continue to pull, he would have been impeached several times over
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Sat Jul-17-04 09:50 AM
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7. I have read "Worse Thank Watergate" |
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and it did freak me out! :scared:
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Sat Jul-17-04 10:12 AM
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13. That B/W cat looks cottony soft! |
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I'll bet he is one good boy
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Sat Jul-17-04 09:52 AM
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8. who are you miss sunnyyyyyyyyyyy?? |
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Edited on Sat Jul-17-04 09:54 AM by schoolteacherpam
the thought police???
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Sat Jul-17-04 09:56 AM
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10. He/she is a fr---tard who dispenses insults and silly comments |
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and never responds to follow up questions.
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Sat Jul-17-04 12:01 PM
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Sat Jul-17-04 09:56 AM
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9. moron to him and all that agree shaking head in zombie way |
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principle isnt shit til it gets to that point and you can continue in principle, otherwise where is the substance in principle. only when it is easy. ya right. and hence the problem with administration
christianity, honor integrity kindness and love all nifty, til it gets challenging, ........
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Sat Jul-17-04 10:11 AM
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Sat Jul-17-04 11:36 AM
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16. Link????? the book Worse than Watergate |
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Sat Jul-17-04 10:21 AM
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14. And that's exactly what they tell each other. |
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"Principles are OK up to a certain point". What Dick Cheney means here, is that principles are soft. They're shifting and movable. If your principle doesn't serve you at the moment, then you abandon it. Which means that you HAVE no principle.
That's the definition of principle: it is a guideline, a long term solution to shorter-term problems. For example, I have a principle of not stealing.
However, if I'm in a gift shop and I see a beautiful crystal bowl that I really want and the clerk is occupied, I turn around and steal it. That's the same thing as not having a priniple. Of course, Cheney knows this very well.
What he's really saying here is, as long as I pretend to be honest, or if it makes me look better in the polls, then I'll be honest. But the minute it conflicts with my getting a no-bid contract for Halliburton, I'm lying all the way.
What you see is what you get with Dick Cheney.
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Sat Jul-17-04 12:21 PM
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22. Even worse when you gather a group of like minded people knotted |
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together in flagging ego groupthink...Together, they think nothing to Lie, Cheat and Steal their way to a WIN..on that malevolently inspired principles alone..saving face.
There are more people than not joined together in group think as a winning proposition. They can't bear the thought of ever being human...err I mean admitting their wrong in their principles...
So partners in crime are the aspirin of the day that soothe sagging egos.
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Sat Jul-17-04 10:24 AM
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15. Like the old joke. We have settle what you are, now for your price. |
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Sat Jul-17-04 11:50 AM
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17. Too Funny! Principles are "OK" up to a point and then they get in the way |
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Sat Jul-17-04 11:56 AM
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18. kinda like truth is okay |
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until it gets in the way as well!!!
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Sat Jul-17-04 12:10 PM
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20. He's not even trying to hide or disguise his criminality any more! |
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FU has become unglued. I bet he's threatened * and Rove with retaliation if they dump him though. It's the honor among thieves thing: they all have bloody hands, and if one goes down so goes the cabal.
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Sat Jul-17-04 12:18 PM
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I hear that very same thing being spouted by DUers every day.
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Sat Jul-17-04 12:41 PM
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24. quite right: the neolibs think morals, principles, and positions are bad, |
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if not outright dangerous; if anyone points out that they say that, though, they scream and howl and cry. Same goes for their unifying of neocons and neolibs; they blather how this will "win the swing voter," then have aneurysms when someone remarks that this will bring the Dems further right--exactly what they demanded two second before...
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Sat Jul-17-04 12:34 PM
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this woman I worked with (white, screwed her way to management) once remarked to me about my race: "You people let morals get in the way".
True story.
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Sat Jul-17-04 12:45 PM
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25. hmm, doesn't that make Cheney a flip-flopper?? |
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not to mention a vile and disgusting excuse for a carbon-based life form
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