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lottie244 Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:28 PM
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Joe Wilson lied!
See how easy it was to get your attention with the simple three-word statement. It's instantly embedded in your brain. That's how the RW keeps the dittoheads entrenched and under control. Give them simple, second-grade level sound bits and never discuss or answer anything else.

After watching Joe Wilson explain how the RW lied and is attacking him I have come realize that no matter how much he has the facts on his side, no mattaer how much proof he can offer, it won't matter. The damage was done with the simple little statement headlined on FOX and Rush and Hannity. I watched Joe take on Blitzer and I think he did a marvelous job, even with Blitzer trying to use the taliking points handed to him by Rove. But I also realize that the average American watching would not be able to comprhend the truth and the nuances of Wilson's refutation of the RW smear campaign against him. What Wilson needed to say and say it simply is: I did not lie! The administration is lying. and the Senate Committee has misrepresented the truth. He doesn't need any further explanations because after the simple statements are given, the dittoheads tune out and can't keep up. The left needs to learn to use the same tactics that the RW has used so successfully. Either tell the truth or tell a lie but tell it in a simple sound bite!
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:29 PM
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1. It doesn't matter how he got his job
"They attacked his wife!"

How's that for a short retort.
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lottie244 Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:34 PM
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5. Good one. I like it.
you are right!
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ArnoldLayne Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 01:51 PM
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18. That should be
enough for treason.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:30 PM
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2. Agree 100%. He has to say THEY LIE! Sorry, we have to respond by
attacking.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:33 PM
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3. That's why I post the MEME MEMO.
Because we need to take back the language - and win back hearts and minds of the American people - from these thugs.

I just picked up "What's the Matter With Kansas?," a new book by Thomas Frank. It tells how the RepubliCONs wormed their way into the subconscience of the heartland. Put it on your reading list.


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lottie244 Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:35 PM
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6. Thanks
I will.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:33 PM
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4. one point
I don't think most people watch cable or satellite news unless there is a special event, they have better things to do.

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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:36 PM
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7. "the white house blew the cover of our key anti-terrorism operative"
this has to trump anything wilson could have possibly done.

how can the white house even begin to justify putting undercover intelligence assets and their contacts in lethal peril for petty political retaliation is so far beyond the pale....

and how the right-wing media lets them get away with it! this should not be covered as if it's a simple policy debate or a petty spat. the fact that the white house is angry at wilson SUPPORTS our side of the story. the fact that they're saying "but he lied" SUPPORTS our side of the story, namely, that the white house committed an act of borderline, if not actual, treason in pursuit of petty political retaliation.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:40 PM
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8. Logic prevails - he was ideal for the job - knew Iraq, knew certain
countries in Africa, including Niger precisely if I remember correctly. As a diplomat/ambassador and with a certain degree of knowledge about WMDs, he was ideal. Whether or not his wife recommended him is so trivial it shouldn't bother rational Americans - but we know who isn't rational.
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:41 PM
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9. The only people discussing this...
...are people who know who the hell Joe Wilson is.

For the most part, I think those people have made up their minds about him.

This is all just so much noise to me.
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:42 PM
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10. You got my attention because I have already seen that posted on another ..
message board and was hoping to find out what could possibly be driving it.

Included along with it is usually the information that "he sipped mint tea for four days".
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:48 PM
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12. The reason he sipped anything there for 4 days is because
Edited on Sun Jul-18-04 12:49 PM by Kerryfan
there were flights out only once a week. He found out what he needed to know in a day or two. I agree he should have been more succinct in his answers.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:45 PM
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11. "they committed TREASON"
Somewhere, I had read that Plame's "outing" not only trashed her career, put in jeopardy all of her contacts established over her 20 year's of service, but had resulted in 71 deaths of her former contacts internationally. Can't recall where I read it. Has anyone else heard of this. . .?
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 01:00 PM
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13. My reponse EXACTLY!
Edited on Sun Jul-18-04 01:02 PM by BlueEyedSon
I also heard that her "cover company" was compromised, endangering all operatives using the same bogus employer as a cover.... so it's not only her and her contacts that were put at risk!
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TA Donating Member (349 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 01:04 PM
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14. Good Point
This exactly what the Republican Party is so good at. It's not what they say it is how they say it. Unfortunately too many in this country don't think about or question what they hear. One of our tasks is to make others aware and convince them they have a wonderful thing called a brain. So use it.
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oly Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 01:05 PM
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15. Come-on, you guys, get with the program.
Wilson lied. Outing an agent was/is patriotic. Civil disobedience -- think of Mandela, Gandhi, King.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 01:11 PM
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16. WTF?
:wtf:
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oly Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 02:13 PM
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20. Attempt at humor. Sorry.
Accurate in the dittohead sense. (the Mandela, King, Gandhi thing would probably escape them.)

This attempt too smear Wilson is, IMO, an attempt too sway undecided people and, of course, those swayed by Wilson, originally. Isn't it convenient -- this "fog" about Uranium ore that was stirred up by repugs in the Senate with their half-assed report.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 01:16 PM
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17. Welcome to DU *wave*
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 01:53 PM
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19. The New York Post headline showed Bush's ugly mug
and the words..BUSH KNEW... yet his minions weaseled him out of that ..

sometimes it works..sometimes not :(
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