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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:38 PM
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County supervisor ejected from Bush event for wearing Kerry shirt
http://www.wisinfo.com/postcrescent/news/archive/local_16947799.shtml

Appleton official ejected from Bush event

Outagamie board member donned shirt backing Kerry

By Ed Lowe
Post-Crescent staff writer

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Nelson, who joined the County Board this year, said he got bounced from the VIP list for President Bush’s speech Wednesday at the Resch Center in Ashwaubenon because of inappropriate attire.

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Nelson said he was ejected after being caught sporting a T-shirt endorsing the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, though he said it was fully hidden beneath a heavy cotton button-down shirt.

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Once exposed, the female election worker who singled Nelson out snatched the VIP ticket from his hand and called for police, he said.

“Look at his shirt! Look at his shirt!” Nelson recalled the woman telling the Ashwaubenon Public Safety officer who answered the call.

Nelson said the officer told him, “You gotta go,” and sternly directed him to a Secret Service contingent that spent seven or eight minutes checking him over before ejecting him from the property.

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So much for free speech
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Citizen Daryl Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:40 PM
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1. Not surprising.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:43 PM
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2. These stories have become waaay too common..
Edited on Sun Jul-18-04 01:02 PM by physioex
And in no way surprise me anymore.....
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:46 PM
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5. ;The "way too common" part is key...proof that they
don't want us to have our Amendment Rights in this Country.

This is noting but bad news for the bushits..and People who are swing voters will be paying attention.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:44 PM
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3. Why does the baby mask look familiar?
What movie is that scene from?
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:45 PM
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4. Brazil.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:47 PM
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6. We do it too
We have people outside Kerry/Edwards events to spot Bush disruptors. We don't let them in. I wish people would quit being hypocritical about this kind of thing.

Now, if it's a Presidential speech and not a campaign event, that's a different matter.
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Citizen Daryl Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:50 PM
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7. If someone is going to be a disruptor ...
... they're certainly not going to be walking around the convention floor wearing a Bush T-shirt.

Or am I thinking of anarchists?
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 01:57 PM
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16. The man was not sporting a Kerry shirt
He has one on under his other shirt and he doesn't know how they knew he had it on. If you read the entire article it's actually quite strange.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:50 PM
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8. What's really funny, is the reich wingers think they're "winning" when
this happens. It makes them happy to read these stories.

The fools can't see that loss of freedoms we've taken for granted will eventually effect them.

They won't see it until it's too late.........

"First they came for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up,
because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up,
because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one
left to speak up for me."

by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945

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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:52 PM
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9. Apparently people at these shrubya events have to lift their shirts
to show their T-shirts to make sure there's no JK shirts and such. Someone posted a news article describing this a while back. I guess we couldn't have any embarrassing orchestrated shirt lifting or what not.

What would be amusing is body paint under the T-shirts to be unveiled at the appropriate time, or boxers with "Bush/Cheney can kiss my (donkey image)"! Like to see them screen their own supporters for that!
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Sporadicus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 12:53 PM
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10. Like the SS Agent Said
if there are instances of citizens wearing pro-* clothing being ejected from Kerry rallies, why haven't we heard anything about it? There would be a huge outcry from the RW if such a thing had occurred.
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fdr_hst_fan Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 01:10 PM
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11. Yes, and do you know what THEIR
arguent would be? "YOU'RE VIOLATING OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO FRE SPEECH!" Remember, after Hitler's putsch failed, he decided to go "legit", i.e. use the Weimar governments's own rules AGAINST them. And it WORKED!
:wtf:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 01:18 PM
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12. These people that are ejected and/or arrested for protesting at
* campaign events need to sue the */f'u campaign. The campaign is a separate legal entity from the pres and a different legal standing without the protections afforded lawsuits against the gov.

If he had an invitation, he definitely had a right to be there.

I wish someone would sue their campaign for violating their civil rights (freedome of speech) and take a stand.
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olddem43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 01:34 PM
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13. This is normal and reasonable -
if it isn't done, the candidates would be unable to speak without constant disruption. These events are staged for supporters and not really open to the general public for this reason. (that's why there are tickets for outdoor events that have basically unlimited capacity) I was at a Kerry rally 3 months ago and a group of a dozen or so young Repugs somehow got in and tried to disrupt Kerry's speech. It took several minutes to take away their noise makers and push them to the back of the crowd. Very annoying.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 01:44 PM
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14. But they were not ejected until [b]after[/b] they disrupted.
That's a big difference.

Wearing of a shirt or carrying of a sign should not get you removed, questioned or arrested.

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olddem43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 01:53 PM
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15. I think the point is that these are private parties and
the organizers get to decide who is welcome. No one gets arrested, they are just asked to leave and are escorted out. Same as if you have a party and some unwelcome guests show up. This is especially true if you know that there is a large probability that they will be disruptive.
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