arnold calls california dem's 'girlie men' ......

[freedomonk]

http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/story/10044671p-10965850c.html

ONTARIO - This time he called them "girlie men up there in Sacramento." Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger came to the Inland Empire on Saturday afternoon to bash and threaten Democrats he said were "obstructionists" blocking the state budget and catering to special interests.

"If these guys won't do the job, I'm going to announce each of you a terminator," Schwarzenegger said. "Nov. 2 is judgment day. That's when you go to the polls."

On Saturday, Schwarzenegger directed it at Democrats twice, sparking howls of laughter from more than 1,000 people jammed in to see him - and howls of protest from Democrats, who said the remark was sexist, anti-gay and more characteristic of a bully than a Republican governor purporting to seek compromise and bipartisanship.

"About a fourth of the Senate are women," Sen. Gloria Romero, a Los Angeles Democrat who's been working with the Schwarzenegger administration on prison reform, said in a telephone interview. "This is offensive for women. It is offensive to gays and lesbians in the Legislature because of the way that term historically has been applied. 'Girlie man' is a negative term. It is inappropriate for a governor or anybody to name-call someone who, whether he likes it or not, has been elected by a majority of people in a district to represent them."

unbelievable, is this guy for real? he is funny though, i give him that.

[fdr_hst_fan]

1. AH-nold should stick

his head up his ass and JUMP!
:evilgrin:

[Warpy]

26. Good posture for him

It should be noted that all those girlie men are cleaning his clock.

I guess the job is a little more than reciting memorized lines on a movie set and mr Terminator just isn't up to the challenge.

[calimary]

55. He's already GOT his head up his ass. He arrived that way.

I was at a Kerry house party today - State Senator Sheila Kuehl was there - she mentioned this briefly (everything she mentioned was, unfortunately, briefly. She didn't have near enough time) and said while she likes Arnold, she thinks he's in over his head. An understatement if you ask me.

[rlev1223]

78. Girlie men?

He's been listening to Ms. Coulter....
Where is she anyway....maybe at a fat farm trying to lose weight?

[shance]

80. Why does Arnold hate women so much?

what the hell is wrong with being a girl?

[rumguy]

2. The thing is it's not funny

It's lazy...

[freedomonk]

6. if you imagine ahnold saying it

it is kind of funny

that's typical arnold, when faced with a problem his natural reaction is to look down on anybody who has less muscles than him. he was probably teased in school because of his accent, so he overcompensated by building up his body, now he goes around saying 'zis gurliie men', lol

[rumguy]

7. I think he sees it as an easy way to get a laugh

There's nothing worse than lazy humor...

[seabeyond]

46. like it is so funny stick hand up dress

or grab a womans breast you dont know. just a laugh a minute

all indicitive of not being respectful to woman, ergo not going to represent women the way they should demand

[TeacherCreature]

8. When he was in school he had the same accent as everyone else

He was an adult when he came here.
In addition it is sexist and homophobic. Not funny in the least.

[freedomonk]

13. lol, my bad

i haven't gotten my official arnold biography yet...

[Devils Advocate NZ]

10. Why would he be teased in school because of his accent?

Where he went to achool, they all spoke like that!

[ashling]

12. Ahnold went to school in Austria

[Dogmudgeon]

14. That's why Bush is being especially nice to him

He wants Ahnold to get him Crockodile Dundee's autograph.

--bkl

[ashling]

LOL

[fortyfeetunder]

3. We can always call Ah-nold a serial rapist and porno king

for his little gang-bangs and his nude pictures....

[lanparty]

59. His nude was tasteful ...

Sorry but nudity is NOT porn. Depictions of sexual activity is porn.

BTW, I also think Arnold is a sexist, racist pig, but I don't think he is a pornographer.

[IronLionZion]

4. hilarious

sometimes I wonder about those folks in Ka-lee-for-nee-ah who voted for the gropenator.

[playahata1]

37. Is Jim Eisenhower related to IKE?

Saw your sig line, so I am curious.

[IronLionZion]

38. I doubt it

His site doesn't say anything about it

www.jimeisenhower.com

[maggrwaggr]

5. after all those steroids, his dick is probably the size of a

AAA battery.

[mitchtv]

25. If there truly is a God,

He will get those pictures by Maplethorpe (sp) to see the glaring light of the National Enquirer, or some such outlet

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[Cha]

9. As opposed to swartzengroper's macho man?

..who obviously doesn't respect women?

[Cleita]

11. I had a German neighbor a long time ago, who helped me

with my German homework. He used to call a gay couple in the building girlie men. So not only is he pissing off women, he is also pissing off gays. He still thinks he's the terminator. Time to get him another acting job, preferrably in a galaxy far, far away.

[Kellanved]

41. not to defend the term

, but being "weibisch" is roughly the same as being a "sissy". While the direct translation is "girlie", the actual use is like "sissy".

Not that I consider either term as being PC - quite the contrary.

[freedomonk]

15. zis gurly men

check out this site

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/entertainers/actors/arnold-schwarzenegger/

[GreenPartyVoter]

16. Those movie lines are getting really old and tired, Ahnie.

[foo_bar]

17. I think it's from SNL's Hanz und Franz

who were, in turn, doing a caricature of Arnold. America is too satirical for satire.

[GreenPartyVoter]

19. I meant the Terminator and Judgement lines, but yeah, he definitely

has seen Kevin Nealon and Dana Carvey doing their schtick. *l*

[Career Prole]

20. To illustrate your point, here are all three...

[mellowinman]

32. Remember, in Terminator

he said "Ah'll be Bahk," and everyone loved it?

So in his next movie, (the deplorably bad 'Commando,') he said it again!

And in about five other movies, he SAID IT AGAIN!

Then, when he made "Terminator II," he fucking SAID IT AGAIN!!!

It got to the point that when they said they'd need people to play the part of famous composers from the Baroque period, Ahnold would say "I'll be Bach."

Shut the fuck up already Ahnold.

You're a moron.

[Straight Shooter]

18. I wish Mr. Groped-and-ate-her would come up with some fresh lines

I concur with rumguy. Lazy humor. The cheap shot is always the easy way out of thinking.

[Bryan]

22. I'm surprised it took him this long to use it

I'm waiting for him to pull out "...crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women".

[BillZBubb]

29. He already used it!

He did it in a recent interview about what he likes about politics. Sorry, I don't have the link.

[lanparty]

60. It's telling that Arnold's best acting role was ...

... the portrayol of a robot.

Arnold is a personality, he was NEVER an actor. He was John Wayne on steroids with even less range.

[Deja Q]

21. Ugh. Using his fame status to swindle the braindead...

May his steroid use cause his nuts to drop off. They probably already had since he's got that revolting attitude.

[mitchtv]

23. HAHAHAHAHA..How about, an SUV in every garage.

inland empire.. perfect.. what a sick fuck is el Groper.I live in Riverside Co. and I appreciate his audience.I hesitate to use the word constituents.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

24. Funny thing is...that line would pass here at DU as appropriate for some

language really DOES matter

[PeaceForever]

27. There is a stereotype of progressive men being pansies . . .

. . . and unfortunately, it's true all-too-often. For example, I have friends who went down to Brunswick, GA for the Fair World Fair, and they said that the way they could tell someone was an undercover cop was (and I quote), "because they were built. Guys from our side aren't that big."

This shouldn't have to be a problem for our side. Think of NYC cops and union members. They definitely have their shit together as MALES.

Think of John Kerry and Wesley Clark--they are alpha males. Ralph Nader is a beta male, who unfortunately fits the stereotype of what the average progressive man is like.

A man isn't by nature a passive little weakling. If you're a man reading this site, you might want to start hitting the fucking weightroom and eating right (lots of lean protein to build muscle). I'm not telling you how to live, just making a suggestion.

I'm far from perfect myself. I have only been lifting weights for about 4 months, but things are improving.

Feel free to ignore my suggestion, guys, but then at the same time don't be surprised when people think of you as an unattractive "girlie man."

[uhhuh]

44. Here's an Idea

Why don't you put down the barbells.
If you feel that men can't be respected or "tough" without overdeveloped "man tits", then you should really reconsider the audience you're speaking to.

I think Paul Wellstone was tougher than Kerry and Clark combined, but he obviously wouldn't "pass" your definition of a man, would he?

If you feel that is it is important to perpetuate the stereotype of what defines a man, go ahead.

I think a man is someone who stands up for what is right. I think a man is someone who takes responibility for his own actions and is strong enough to give love and guidance to those around him. I think a man is approximately half of the population. I believe a man generally has a penis, although one could still be one if they gender identify themselves that way without one. I think a man is anyone who says they are a man.
Your alpha male bullshit works real good in the forest or jungle. If you want to live there, go ahead.

It seems that to you, a man is only his appearance. If he is "built", he is tough and dominant. I think men who go out of their way to get huge muscles are hiding some sort of insecurity. I think that eating right and taking care of yourself are good ideas, but don't be shocked when you spend so much time building up your muscles that people may see you as a brain dead oaf, or a thug.

It's not fair, but a lot of people do.

Just a suggestion...

[the_outsider]

45. The stereotype is in your mind

Try to get over it. What's wrong with girls so that "girlie man" is to be considered an insult? No girlie/feminine man worth his salt will feel insulted by Arnold's garbage. Time to get rid of Greek Alphabet-based categorization of men.

[sadiesworld]

56. Steroids are dangerous.

It will be easier if you quit now.

[lanparty]

62. Progressives and Karate!!!!

More progressives need to spend time in martial arts classes. I can tell you that it is definitely NOT a "jock" thing. Rather, it's typically more cerebral stuff.

Aikido in particular is 100% non-aggressive employing movements that are strictly defensive in nature.

Jocks don't come anywhere near dojos. Their egos don't allow for the notion that football and basketball haven't made them undefeatable alpha males.

[Porcupine]

81. Lots of Martial Artists are Progressive....

Me for instance, I weigh in at 220 and practiced Tai Chi for 15 years. My brother in law weighs in at 250 at actively participates in Jujitsu and Earth First!! Conservatives can't stand the fact that it is overall a question of mental toughness rather than physical strength that allows a person to sustain training.

Check out http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?endeca=1&isbn=1556434251&itm=3">"In Search of the Warrior Spirit" by an Aikido teacher who trained Green Berets.

The American weekend, overtime, workman's compensation for injuries....these and more were paid for with the blood of LIBERAL men and women. Not a gift from the Oligarchs.

[Misunderestimator]

66. Wow... now that's a switch... a man objectifying his own gender...

and reducing everything down to physical appearance... I'm amazed... really.

:eyes:

[Tactical Progressive]

28. Oh lighten up.

It's funny and Democrats should have been laughing too, while they're shaking their heads.

Gloria Romero could have talked about how girly-men and girly-girls have been kicking his ass in T2 and T3. Or maybe how he needs to go back to Cyberdyne for major fiscal reprogramming after this budget. Or how California on steroids is getting all angry and pimple-faced and girls don't want to talk to it anymore. Then use that entry to spread a soundbite of budgetary sense.

Something besides whining.

[PeaceForever]

30. Yeah definitely

The ironic thing is that the whining in this thread, when it's done by males, makes them look like girly men.

[mellowinman]

31. Yeah, you're right.

We should get together and say "Fuck off ahss hole."

"Ve vill kick your ahsss."

Making fun of "girly men" is not funny. It's fucking stupid. Got a problem with that? Fucking DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! What are ya gonna do, HUH?

HUH?

I DARE YA to hit me!

I FUCKING DARE YA!!!!

Is that macho enough for you?

Wouldn't want to be accused of "whining."

Here are some examples of things Sick asshole repukes have accused us of "whining" over:

1. Bush stealing the election
2. The abuse/homicide/torture at Abu Ghraib
3. Repuke fucksticks stealing the flag as their own
4. Women who are raped being forced to bear the child conceived

It goes on and on and on. And yet Repukes WHINE that Bush gets "treated badly" if the press ever does their fucking job.

Here's the deal: "Whining" is a tired fucking word. It is a cliche. It means "to complain."

What the FUCK???? Are we supposed to just STOP compaining when things are WRONG??? How in FUCK are we supposed to voice our opinions without being called fucking WHINERS???

Here's a clue, or two:

1. Calling someone a "Whiner" is NOT a good debate tactic
2. Calling someone a "girly man" is second fucking grade humor. Hans and Franz did it way the fuck back in about '92, over TEN YEARS ago! It was a "fun catch phrase" for about TEN SECONDS and then most of us fucking GREW UP.
3. Anyone calls me a "girly man" in person, they're going to be missing teeth. It is an internet tough guy taunt, or something a governor with secret service protection says.

FUCK Ahnold.

[Tactical Progressive]

39. Yes, I'm right. Democrats are too defensive.

I call Republicans whiners all the time. All the time. I never miss an opportunity to recollect eight years of infantile and ugly whining about the President that gave them more economically than any other. I do it personally and on the boards. It is a good debate tactic because it's true. You don't have to make up excuses to call Repubs whiners - they're always whining about something meaningless.

And I'm always referencing:
1) abusing the US Constitution to illegally & unethically impeach an opposition President
2) stealing the 2000 election six ways to Sunday
3) purposely leaving America open to terrorist attack in 2001
4) lying from every orifice to start a war against Iraq

But I'm not whining when I do it. Not even close.

This Dem upset with Arnold using some of his movie one-liners in the political arena ... Holy moly, it's like a fastball right down the middle. I could think of twenty things to come back with besides complaining. How about this from Gloria: 'Republican girly-men seem to be terrified of their corporate masters cutting off their campaign contributions. That's what you get without enough Democrats in the statehouse. We'll look at Arnold's flabby budget, and we'll be back.'

PS - You shouldn't have to hit someone just because they don't know that "Republican" is the Latin derivation of 'girly-man'. Just explain it to them.

[mellowinman]

48. Bullshit.

You're whining now.

[TeacherCreature]

50. Well of course

Who would want to be like a girl? Suggesting that a man is like a girl is a great insult, much better than moron or ape or even asshole. Being a girl...well, that is the ultimate shame.

It was soooo funny, hysterical really!

[lanparty]

63. Does arnold draw distinctions ...

... between a "girlie" gay man and a full blown bull queer?????

You don't see him taking the bull queers on heh????

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[seabeyond]

47. dont throw like a girl, cry like a girl, run like a girl

and these you dont see a doctrinating of our young men with this. to insult a male, throw the world girl in it. and oh btw from beginning of time males have been abusing feamles, think it has anything to do with the superiority males feel to woman

[rucky]

33. The man is a parody of himself n/t

[HootieMcBoob]

75. Arnold is not a man at all

he's a fucking cartoon character.

[shanti]

34. wonder what burton's response to this will be?

it should be interesting to see....

[Mr_Spock]

35. Ahnold is a fag - oh, is it inappropriate to say that?

lol He'll get a lot done with his lovely "work with me" attitude.

[PCIntern]

36. Spy Magazine did a job on him

years ago...tied him in with some really questionable folk including but not limited to a certain celebrity from Philly...

Also published that full frontal pic...

Text was not too flattering however.

[tom_paine]

40. As comical and insane and Orwellian as befits Imperial Amerika

Fuck this Hitler wannabee and his delusions of Emperor's Crown.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

42. Life imitates satire

:eyes:

[Terran]

43. Arnold is not a man...

"If these guys won't do the job, I'm going to announce each of you a terminator," Schwarzenegger said. "Nov. 2 is judgment day. That's when you go to the polls."

He's a charicature of himself.

[DoNotRefill]

49. Ummm...is "girly-man" an insult?

I've been called that before, and always thought it was funny, not really an insult. Of course, I'm secure in my masculinity....

[Cleita]

51. Well, I'm glad you are secure in your masculinity,

but as a woman the term kind of pisses me off as if being girlie is inferior in any way to being manly, but then there are so many misogynistic terms that are supposed to be insults to men that one would truly expect a chauvinistic ass like Gov. Groper to use them and think that it's okay like he couldn't understand why his unwelcome groping is sexual assault.

This man has serious problems with his general outlook, but then that's probably why he's a Republican.

[lanparty]

64. Well I'm sure the cross-dressers ...

... would be very flattered.

[AlFrankenFan]

52. I don't even know what to say except go Cheney yerself Ahnold! n/t

[erpowers]

53. What Democrats Should have Done

They should have pointed out that Schwarzenegger is connected to special interests. They should have pointed out that in the first few months of his governorship Schwarzenegger accepted more money than Gray Davis did possibly throughout his whole governorship. I agree that Democrats should not have wined about these comments. They should have taken this as an occasion to point out all the promises Schwarzenegger has broken, how is budget is bigger than Gray Davis, and how California is now more in debt than when Davis left office. It also would have been nice to point out how many Republicans are against Schwarzenegger's budget. Finally, they should have pointed out how childish it was for Schwarzenegger to use lines from his movies in discussing California's budget.

[westsidexview]

54. the politically correct police needs to lighten up

if you cannot laugh with arnold, just say nothing. he is just being arnie. don't be so uptight; after all, arnold is a success story that is an american story.

[TeacherCreature]

57. no thanks

[uhhuh]

58. Ahnuld is an American success story

Like Enron is an American success story. Or the chimp is an American success story.

[wickerwoman]

72. American like the Klan and the Trail of Tears.

After all, it wouldn't be America without self-righteous bullies promoting themselves at the expense of those born different from them.

Would Arnold by governor of California if he wasn't born with a dick?

Nope, he'd be a "freak" like all the other female body builders.

[sadiesworld]

67. "Arnie" is a PIG. His achievements include:

Taking a dem governership as the result of a BS recall and a whore press.

Assaulting at least 15 women.

Helping Enron screw Californians out of billions.

Oh yeah, a bunch of lousy movies.


BTW, did you take a wrong turn on the info hwy?

[mitchtv]

71. two words

Hint-not Happy Birthday

[name not needed]

61. I'd suggest that Franken challenge him too, but

Aaahnold would probably win.

[lanparty]

65. I'd fight him ...

Strong does NOT necessarily mean tough. It's better to use one's mind than use one's muscles.

[Outward Bound]

69. You're the man now, dog!

[lanparty]

82. About powerlifters and body builders ...

Yes, they're big and strong. And if they get a good hold on you you're done for. But, they're muscle-bound and SLOOOOOWWWWW!!!!!!

You wouldn't want to hit them in the stomach or arms or any of those big muscles. But their neck, kidnies, knees, ankles, shins, ears, eyes, nose, solar-plexus, tailbone, achilles heel, trachea, etc... are just as vulnerable as that of a 90 pound "girlie-man" weakling. Those who are slow cannot connect with their target unless you allow them. They also place themselves wildly off balance and make themselves vulnerable.

Yeah, I'm not afraid of any muscle bound weight head. It's the thin wiry strong guys who I'd be more worried about. I'm more scared of rock climbers than I am of body builders.

[Warren DeMontague]

68. So, the walking caricature

is caricaturing himself.

Using a caricature of, himself.

Nov. 2? You mean the day that the millions upon millions of Californians who can't stand Bush's atrocious "leadership", not to mention his Fundamentalist wackjob social policy, will come out --hell or high water-- to vote against anything with the stench of the Republican party on it? I guess if he's still talking about "Nov. 2", Ahhhnold hasn't heard about Bush desperately looking for ways to cancel the election.. at least in certain states.

I don't think my representation in Sacramento is terribly threatened by this clown. I think the recall has hurt the GOP in California. They no longer have Gray Davis to blame everything under the sun on, and Arnold is so philosophically removed from most of the rest of the party here that it's hard to imagine his "coattails" reaching very far. They're certainly not going to help Bush, and I don't think they're going to do Bill "no exceptions for rape and incest" Jones any good, either. So, let the kindergarden cop make fun of himself. Doofus.

[AspenRose]

70. Well this explains why his education secretary would go around CA

calling little girls named "Isis" 'dirty.'

Seems to be par for the course in this administration to belittle people by namecalling. Especially those who are different from them.

[walldude]

73. Oh please, the guy started crying

When he saw the "bobblehead" figure of himself. "Sniff.. you caant doo dat to me I'm going to sick ma lawyers on you"

I can't believe Shriver is still married to this dork.

[Cleita]

79. I can.

No comment.

[UTUSN]

76. California Calls Ahhhhhnuld, "CHEENEEint Asshole" n/t

[bluestateguy]

83. So in light of that?

How would the other side react if we called Ken Starr a "fag"? Or used the N-word to describe Colondoleeza Rice or Colin Powell? Or what if somebody called Paul Wolfowitz a "kike"? Somehow, I think these people would be screaming bloody murder. If that's the kind of dialogue they want to have they can bring it on. I have lot's of goodies for their side's icons.