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gauguin57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:09 PM Original message |
Why discussing 9/11 conspiracy theories not completely cuckoo |
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Bhaisahab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. look man, 911 was LIHOP |
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libhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. True - |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. most telling is simply that no one got fired |
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Bhaisahab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. u remember when jon stewart asked wolf blitzer... |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 11:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
63. that is the dead nuts certain "tell" that it was at best LIHOP |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 10:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
36. At a minimum, LIHOP. |
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EndElectoral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 01:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
53. Personally, I beleive there were amazing coincidences that day which.... |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 03:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
56. And would LIHOP be an any less despicable act than MIHOP? |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. I think a turned-up nose is incompatible with an open mind. |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. I'm Not Convinced it Was a Setup |
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Rick Myers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
6. LIHOP |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
8. NORAD was stood down, that makes it MIHOP. |
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TomNickell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:38 AM Response to Reply #8 |
20. Wrong on the facts.... |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 07:41 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Well, you've completely convinced me with that argument! |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 10:18 AM Response to Reply #20 |
35. Then explain why no planes were intercepted. |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 10:48 AM Response to Reply #20 |
41. You always say that, lol. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 01:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
50. Ah,Tom...the man who only post in conspiracy threads to tell people |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 04:21 AM Response to Reply #20 |
66. Then what are the facts Tom |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 10:44 AM Response to Reply #8 |
39. Neo-conservatives dominated USAF think tanks and introduced coups |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
9. There's a couple of reasons to give credence to some theories. |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
10. 9/11 was not a new Pearl Harbor. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 02:47 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. officially neither Reichtag or Pearl Harbor were lihop/mihop |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 07:51 AM Response to Reply #15 |
29. That's my point. |
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pschoeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 03:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
55. Please read some history |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
11. We'll probably never know the whole truth... |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
12. I keep two old Newsweeks near my desk, 9/17/01 and 9/24/01 -- |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 12:42 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Here's an interesting quote from that 9/24/01 Newsweek: |
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Wind Dancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 01:31 AM Response to Original message |
14. We become suspicious and theorize |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 05:00 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. While I have not bought |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 04:53 AM Response to Original message |
16. History - for those who've forgotten. |
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tommilator (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Pearl Harbor's |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:41 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. My point is that a "Pearl Harbor" did not precede those other invasions. |
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sadiesworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 08:25 AM Response to Reply #21 |
31. I don't think the issue is whether YOU think it should have been |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 11:54 AM Response to Reply #31 |
46. I thought the issue was whether or not they actually did it. |
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xocolatl (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 12:34 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. I agree that a project of such a large scale would be difficult ... |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 06:12 AM Response to Reply #49 |
69. It is entirely possible that a small group of shadowy players could have.. |
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Mike Niendorff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 11:21 PM Response to Reply #21 |
62. I think you're starting from a false premise -- it's not only Iraq |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 03:53 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. I was discussing the original post. |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 10:19 PM Response to Reply #16 |
61. It's called a pretext. |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 03:12 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Thanks for explaining what a pretext is. |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 05:13 AM Response to Original message |
18. Definitely MIHOP |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:47 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. My trip down the MIHOP rabbit hole... |
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TomNickell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:56 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. The road to Damascus. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 07:42 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Sometimes a single piece of evidence is the key |
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WoodrowFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 11:01 AM Response to Reply #28 |
43. small hole? |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 11:47 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Yep, small. |
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xocolatl (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 06:45 AM Response to Reply #28 |
71. For once I agree with Tom Nickell |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 04:38 PM Response to Reply #25 |
58. Hey, Tom. Tell us why the data from Flight 93's flight data recorder has |
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xocolatl (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 06:47 AM Response to Reply #58 |
72. Don't bother, Tom won't answer any reasonable question |
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xocolatl (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 06:56 AM Response to Reply #58 |
73. Right on cue.... |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 04:31 AM Response to Reply #25 |
68. Once again my Chanllenge to you Tom. |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:49 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. That is so close to the same reasoning that the Administration used to... |
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WoodrowFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
42. I'm not interested in any proof at this point. |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 01:43 PM Response to Reply #42 |
52. It's typical of every debunker |
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TomNickell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:51 AM Original message |
Cuckoo is, as Cuckoo does.... |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
34. Vague accusations |
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mrboba1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
37. So what is your plausible hypothesis? |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
60. And what of the official story? Isn't it a ridiculous conspiracy yarn -- |
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midwayer (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 06:51 AM Response to Original message |
24. Mary Schneider vs. John Ascroft & James Ziglar |
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democraticinsurgent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 08:18 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. MIHOP for my money |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 09:16 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Agree |
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democraticinsurgent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 09:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. welcome to DU! |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 04:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
57. F*ck the NTSB. They are whores just like all the rest of 'em |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
26. The only completely cuckoo theory is the one the WH spun |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
38. I am MIHOP and was long before 9/11 |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 12:13 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. Excellent post, and important stuff. |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 02:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Thanks, minstrelboy, for this relevant and articulate analysis |
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xocolatl (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 04:41 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. There may be no way out |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
40. I don't think Bush and Co. were in on it -m |
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democraticinsurgent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 11:53 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. welcome to DU! |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 12:02 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Napoleon Bonaparte's quote: |
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LunaC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 01:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
51. This might change your mind |
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dudeness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 04:25 AM Response to Original message |
67. the whole 9/11 disaster |
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TomNickell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 06:28 AM Response to Original message |
70. Bush is a 2-head Venusian Shape-Shifter. |
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