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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 03:26 AM
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Does anyone have a link to this original article?
Very telling about the current situation and how long a Iraq "liberation" plan has been in place. This is dated Feb 19, 2001.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Iraqi+National+Congress+wolfowitz&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=1&as_miny=2001&as_maxd=19&as_maxm=7&as_maxy=2001&selm=96rtbr%24mfn6l%241%40ID-66657.news.dfncis.de&rnum=4

Gulf War II: The oil-and blood-soaked sequel

By Larry Chin

"Despite the State Department's vigorous denials, America is in
the process of installing a new US-backed regime. The groundwork has been years in the making. The overt Gulf War continued as a covert war under Clinton, who was content to lob missiles every so often, while allowing the CIA's ongoing operations within Iraq to continue."

In the coming months, we should not surprised to see more
"heightened tensions" throughout the Middle East (real and
fabricated), along with a new round of Saddam demonization,
breathless talk about the threat of Middle East/Arab terrorism
(real and fabricated) and mobilization of US forces, leading
eventually to war (with real civilian death and suffering), and
an overthrow or surrender by Saddam. Agents of the INC, no
doubt, will lead a new pro-West, pro-business government
with the goal of transforming Iraq into an "investable emerging
market."

Before cameras and microphones, Bush II will puff out his
chest and proclaim victory over his father's nemesis, in the
cause of world peace. Ignorant and uninformed Americans
will believe the fable. The same lies and fraud that turned
George H.W. Bush from a "wimp" to New World Order Head
Honcho Supreme will turn Bush II from a "stupid idiot with no
foreign policy credentials" to a "tough world leader."

<snip>

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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 03:51 AM
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1. I couldn't find it, but...
Edited on Mon Jul-19-04 03:59 AM by parasim
Larry Chin appears to be a contributing editor for onlinejournal.com so perhaps you can find it in their archives. :shrug:


on edit: if that article is bonafide, that is pretty amazing. the guy nailed it!
and did you read the reply to that google groups post? it said "It's about time, we need the oil." sheesh... freepers are everywhere!
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 04:04 AM
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2. This is apparently one of four parts...
... and onlinejournal.com seems only to have the last part, not titled the same as what you request:

http://www.onlinejournal.com/11-14-02_Chin-4.pdf

Don't see links to the other parts....
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 10:08 AM
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12. I've posted that link a lot myself. I have confidence in Larry Chin.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 04:27 AM
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3. that is amazing!
I so wish we could find the original!


Cher
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 04:33 AM
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4. So do I!
The only other source I can find is another newsgroup post also dated Feb. 2001:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Bush+to+annex+Iraq+for+oil+companies%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=96rt4g%24m7k2v%241%40ID-66657.news.dfncis.de&rnum=2

BUt the original article is nowhere to be found on the net. Spooky!
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uhhuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 05:54 AM
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5. Try this
Edited on Mon Jul-19-04 06:24 AM by uhhuh
This is the parent directory of the onlinejournal special reports menu.

I am slowly going through all of Chin's stuff, but it is in pdf form and each one takes a while for mt computer to load.

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/

On edit:

It does have a lot of good material in here, including Chin's entire Iraq report, but nothing from 2001.

lovin that wayback machine:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010219000000-20010228235959/http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/Chin021801/chin021801.html

It is all an accurate quote from the article.
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uhhuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:26 AM
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6. Kick
So gatorboy can have his answer.
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:37 AM
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7. Here are the links you're looking for-
The deep politics of regime removal in Iraq: Overt conquest, covert operations
Part One: Into the abyss
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Chin102402/chin102402.html

Part Two: The CIA and the Iraqi/Kurd opposition groups
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Chin103102/chin103102.html

Part Three: The US war lobby and the disciples of NSC-68
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Chin110702/chin110702.html

Part Four: The unfinished business between Saddam Hussein and George H.W. Bush
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Chin111402/chin111402.html

Part Five: The American Empire and business of Iraq
(Series conclusion)
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Chin112102/chin112102.html

-----

and more found here:
http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Regime_change
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:04 AM
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8. a big thank you to soup!
Very helpful!!


Cher
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:29 AM
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9. You're welcome.
Edited on Mon Jul-19-04 09:31 AM by soup
You guys kept it kicked.

I just got lucky. Picked 'Iraq investable emerging market' for the search phrase, and the motherlode popped up at the disinfopedia site.

helluva lot of reading to do.
The play remains the same.
The supporting cast of characters grows and morphs.
Directed by greed and power.
Produced by evil.

Heaven help us all.

edit to move a couple of words around. I rarely make any sense whatsoever anymore.

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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:54 AM
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10. Thanks so much guys for the help!
Uhuh even found the original here"

http://web.archive.org/web/20010219000000-20010228235959/http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/Chin021801/chin021801.html

Which I thought was important since it shows that the article was published at such an early date.

Should this stuff get a thread with a better title? I think this is very important material that shows just how determined these guys were with their Iraqi National Congress to invade Iraq. I think if more people knew just how early on they wanted this to happen, it would change alot of minds. Especially those who assume it was because of 9/11 that Bush invaded. Thanks again for the help, everyone!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 10:02 AM
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11. Wake up America. Kick
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 02:50 AM
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17. here's a tinyurl of the same url
http://tinyurl.com/5xapo

you know. For the kids.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:24 AM
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13. KICK! n/t
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:42 AM
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14. Thanks for bringing this article up at this time.
Larry Chin is amazing, he has nailed the inner workings of this administration for years now.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 01:33 AM
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15. No problem!
Believe me, it has opened my eyes to just how far some of these guys would go for their war...
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 02:47 AM
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16. Damn! This is good stuff!
:kick:
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:02 PM
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18. a kick for the mid-day crowd
:kick:
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