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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:11 AM
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A growing prejudice I have against Republicans.
Edited on Tue Jul-20-04 01:13 AM by coloradodem2004
I have come to virulently hate Republicans. They screwed up the economy. They took us to war. They moralize about war and stick to the lies about it. They are hypocritcal. Their supporters blindly follow them and shill for them and they whine that other people show them disdain because of what they support. What is wrong with me? I feel like I am automatically disliking people, politicians and otherwise, who are R's. It's scary. Do I have a problem because of this?

On edit: THey never learn from history.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:13 AM
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1. Hard Not To, But . . .
Ya gotta prioritize. If they're family, tread lightly. Elections come and go (except maybe this time, eh?)

On the other hand, sometimes I too feel like I'm going to explode.

Only thing that helps is getting out of the house and working to BEAT THE BASTARDS.
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JaySherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:13 AM
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2. I used to think such hatred was sinking to their level.
But now, I don't know. The way they're screwing up our country, and doing it with such cavalier arrogance, makes them hard not to hate. I'd say it's understandable.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:19 AM
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3. Yes but...
...what bothers me is this. I hate racism and anti-semitism. As well as sexism (generally) and hate against gays. The malicious hate you could have against someone because of how they were born or their religion had always escaped me how people could think like that.

Now, I feel that way towards Republicans. It feels like the same kind of hate that I feel now. It scares me a little.
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JaySherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:27 AM
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8. Same here. I despise that crap.
Edited on Tue Jul-20-04 01:28 AM by JaySherman
It only makes me madder that their attitudes and actions are inducing such disgusting, vile feelings in me. I sure as hell don't want to become like them. The way I deal with it is to channel that anger into getting rid of them.

The fact you're expressing guilt means you're on the right track. It's something no rethug would ever do.

edit: At least you have a conscience.
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:47 AM
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26. I think that's a totally unfair comparison.
"...what bothers me is this. I hate racism and anti-semitism. As well as sexism (generally) and hate against gays. The malicious hate you could have against someone because of how they were born or their religion had always escaped me how people could think like that."

The fact that you're equating conservatives with persecuted minorities is almost offensive. The way the word "hate" is being spun these days is downright dangerous. The ideas that liberals are full of hate is a right-wing talking point meant to suggest that our hatred of conservatives is a crime. By doing this they trivialize actual hate crimes which target people for how they were born, while stifling dissent by making it a crime to ever hate someone for their IDEAS. Are we not allowed to hate murderers, rapists, fascists, or racists? I reserve my right to hate conservatives and what they are doing to our country and the world. The guilt you feel is exactly the reaction they want you to have as they use the right-wing media to try and paint themselves as victims.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:20 AM
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4. I'm willing to accept that flaw in myself
I live around quite a few republicans. I don't harass them. I'm not rude to them. I don't go out of my way to engage them in conversation. I'm not neighborly with them. Wouldn't invite them to my functions. Turn down invites from them. They aren't allowed in my home...and those who have made it to my porch know this (can't miss the "unwelcome" mat). I will give as good as I get when they do insist on "discussing" world matters.

But I can live with this flaw. It's my flaw...it's one of many I have....
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:23 AM
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6. I never used to have this flaw.
I was never big on them. I would not vote for Owens for governor. Nor Bush. But the last 2 years in particular, it feels like a bigotry within me.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:32 AM
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10. I didn't used to have it either
and I think, for me, it's a case of having become just so tired of the ignorance. It's like they want to start a fight...they go out of their way to start fights. Theres almost no chance of honest and civil discourse.

I usually have to work with several republicans on various projects and I avoid politics and religion when around them...or try to at least. I don't feel very open to them and I don't feel very comfortable with them...mainly because I know, once started, I'm not giving an inch and it would probably get ugly.

I find it hard to like people who support policies that harm others. It's got to be a reflection on character, doesn't it, to support Bush?
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:23 AM
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5. i too....
I've always had a healthy distrust and hate on for the repug 'leadership', but lately the little minions are really getting to me. It's like they've all recieved coupon discounts for frontal lobotomy's..... no matter what that bush crappile and his horde of hideous do, these comatosed find some slack arsed idiotic way to defend all actions repug. Even torture is now kinda okey dokey, and the patriot act 14 would be too, mmm, okay, as long as you're not breaking the law, whatcha got to worry about?

It's supercalifrageilisticexpealla - atrocious.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:26 AM
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7. I blame the RW spin machine. They tell their listeners it is okay to hate
anyone who does not walk the straight and narrow. So vague uneasiness of the RW has been blossomed under their tutelage into full blown out in the open bigotry.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:32 AM
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9. They think it is okay if they don't walk the straight and narrow.
You talk of uneasiness of the RW blossoming into bigotry. You mean bigotry of the RW or bigotry of everyone else.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:08 AM
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20. I mean
the RW spin machine has taught their listeners that it is okay to hate: Non-whites, Gays, Self Reliant Women, Foreigners, Poor, Non-religious, environmentalists, and so on.
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:34 AM
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11. I have the same problem
There seem to be irreconcilable differences, and we who love freedom can either choose to acquiesce to them, or stand and refuse. Make no mistake ... the Republicans are by their own words and actions the declared enemies of personal Liberty. If you doubt this, share a pipe of the good weed with a friend, like George Washington used to do, and see what happens.

We are less free than Washington, and that is not what he and the others intended for us.

As Malcom X said: "No one can give you your freedom and dignity. If you are a man, you will take it." Edit for gender neutral correctness if so desired ... the point is clear.

I propose we waste no time with anger ... simply stand always for what we believe. And never yield.
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:36 AM
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12. Something very hateful has happened to the republican party,
and is being inflicted by them on the nation.

Hating the hateful is natural and appropriate. Indeed, once the hateful has been recognized, how can any other course of action be justified?

There is no virtue in tolerating the intolerable, there is only weakness.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:40 AM
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14. I would agree.
We must never tolerate the intolerant.
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woofless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:39 AM
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13. What's the problem?
You don't tolerate assholes in your personal space and what's the difference?
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:40 AM
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15. "I hate Republicans" music and video
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:41 AM
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16. I'm having the same problem, and I don't like it in myself.
Sometimes I feel like a hypocrite, like when I turn Jesus's words back on people who use the Bible to justify their hatred of gays and lesbians. Yet what words am I turning back on them? Love your enemy. Turn the other cheek. Forgive and love and be humble. And yet I am filled with hate and anger!

I used to respect much of the Republican platform - I didn't agree with it, but I could respect their talk about self-reliance, keeping government small, etc.

Now I see it all as lies to cover up bigotry and greed. It's hard for me not to show my anger and disgust toward those who still support BushCo. I feel myself becoming bitter. I don't like that.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:42 AM
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17. Here's Your Poster Boy - Print The Picture And Use It For Target Practice
Never Forget The Face Of American Fascism
'THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT HAPPENS AT THE SKULL & BONES INITIATION...I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE HAVING A GOOD TIME. THESE PEOPLE -- YOU EVER HEARD OF EMOTIONAL RELEASE? YOU EVER HEARD OF NEEDING TO BLOW SOME STEAM OFF?'
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:43 AM
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18. Hate is too much of an emotional investment
First, don't forget that there are many angry and conflicted Republicans out there right now. If these people are for fiscal responsibility and smaller government, then they're getting screwed these days too.

One of the many wonderful definitions of "Liberal" is: Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.

Disagree with them, feel frustrated, get angry, then vote. That's how a two party system is suppose to be...whether we like it or not, our system needs the attempt of political balance.

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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:06 AM
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19. I think I understand now
I have never seen so many people of one mindset have such a problem with the word Liberal. Are Liberals the new Negroes of the 21st Century? Is there so much hate in the heart of the Conservative that they must turn it towards some group, as long as that group is politically correct to hate? The fact that they chose to dislike Liberals as a group is beyond ignorant. It proves they dislike not only the person, but the beliefs they hold.

I don't have a problem w/ you personally, just w/ liberals in general.

I've heard that said over the last half century dozens of times, but you could insert Black, Asian, Indian, Italian, Irish or Jew instead of Liberal without missing a beat and it sounds like the same thing;

Hate and prejudice.

I have a problem with Conservatives, because they've decided that a group (Liberals) as a whole causes them a problem, but a few in the group are ok. I believe that a few in the group (Conservatives) are bad, but the group collectivelly known as the Right are people just like us, trying to get by, raise their kids and hope they are safe, trying to stay healthy, and survive to the next paycheck.

Liberals don't hate. That word should never be a part of our vocabulary. There isn't time in our short lives to make hate important. I pity Conservatives as they go through life trying to separate people by whats wrong w/ this country instead of accepting people for what they are and separating their beliefs from the person. They don't know what they've missed. We should not ever mirror their ignorance.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:14 AM
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21. I fucking hate them
hate.

hate hate hate

I'm having my own private hatefest and they don't even need a talking point to know it.

I hate them with the very core of my being.

They have fucked everyone and everything they could put their filthy hands on and have screwed America to within an inch of its life. If I could snap my fingers and eliminate them right now, I'd do it.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 03:01 AM
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29. paralysed by it, sometimes...
And it's their cold blooded-ness what gets me: for ex. abc news focusing closeup on the mississippi delegation during the democratic convention way back when clinton first ran...the state delegates were mainly black so watcher got impression that the majority of delegates were black, which wasn't true. a few years after, there was a pbs program that examined media role in the election , and abc's news' focusing on black delegates when the camera panned back, it was clear that only a tiny minority of the total were black.....
this thing has been going on for along time, and all one can do is
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:32 AM
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22. The Republican Party has been very corrupt for many years. It is time....
to replace it with the Progressive Republican Party--or whatever is the best name for the opposite of "compassionate conservative."
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:33 AM
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23. Republicans are people too! Plus, they can be persuaded.
Give it a try... they're loyal to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, but when bombarded with facts, they get a little itchy, and can be quite open to persuasion, in my experience.

Like it or not, hard as it may be, we're all in this together...
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fishface Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:34 AM
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24. I'd say you've developed a healthy dislike for the
fascists swine that are ruining our country. Nothing wrong with that!
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Kickin_Donkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:41 AM
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25. I've felt that way at least since I was a freshman in ...
college the year Reagan got elected.

I can't help it. I have this "radar," and if I get a whiff of Republicanism from someone, my hair stands up. I think it comes from when I realized that the central tenet of modern Republicanism is racism.

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SuffragetteSal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:51 AM
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27. Many express violent ideations towards us...
Edited on Tue Jul-20-04 02:54 AM by SuffragetteSal
and our democratic friends and leaders. It wouldn't be safe to trust people like that, would it? So, don't feel bad, your gut feeling is most likely correct.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 03:00 AM
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28. Similar thing happening with me
I used to be able to atleast have reasoned and coherent discussions. Now, they simply turn into shouting matches.

It's harder to have political discussions, which is why I try to avoid politics altogether with people I disagree with. It's frustrating because I like discussing politics, but with this atmosphere of fear, hatred and distrust the rightwing has created in the country, it's hard to have sensible political conversations anymore.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 03:44 AM
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30. I won't suffer fools
and repukes are the biggest and worst kind of fools there are so I will have nothing to do with them, I don't trust them and don't want them in my life. :mad:
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:17 AM
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31. hate 'em
Edited on Tue Jul-20-04 05:17 AM by jukes
wdnt date 'em.


:evilfrown:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:27 AM
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32. Right Wingers are my enemies.
I don't hate them in the way that I want to kill them but I realize that they stand for most things that I feel are ruining America's environment, freedoms and social programs.

They have an agenda to destroy:

Social Security
Medicare
Employer supplied health insurance
Unemployment Benefits
Welfare
Collective Bargaining
EPA
Public Education
Public Housing
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:30 AM
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33. Me Too
I try really hard to not talk politics with republican family members, and that works out pretty well. They aren't bad people, just misinformed. However, friends and acquaintances are another story. If they leave me alone when it comes to politics I'll tolerate them, but if they start bashing Clinton, Kerry, or liberals in general, I'm pretty much done with them. I really do think they have a character flaw, or they are just too stupid or lazy to figure out what is really happening to this country under the Bush* regime. I would rather spend my time with people who can have an independent thought once in awhile.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:58 AM
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34. I Loathe Them Also... Only, You Expressed It Much Better Than I.
My posts end up becoming vulgar grotesque and obscene rants. (I'll stop now before this reply becomes one too.)

-- Allen
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