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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:15 AM Original message |
National Geographic goes over to the dark side |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:19 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Gee, you must be really young. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:26 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Why doesn't it bother you that something you let your children |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:29 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Gotta chime in here - kids don't spend money, parents do. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. In the doc "The Corporation" they have an interview with a woman |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I don't get it - carry out strategies on their parents? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:40 AM Response to Reply #10 |
18. IIRC, the woman explained how they train kids to whine until |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. LOL |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:46 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. It's not ALL the advertisers' fault. But it isn't ONLY the parent's fault. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:48 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. I disagree -- who else buys food for the kids on a regular basis? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:55 AM Response to Reply #32 |
41. So you don't buy them what the whine for. They resent you and then believe |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:56 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I don't think that's even possible |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:00 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Do you seriously not see a difference? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. You know |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:05 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. The key is what kind of parent you want to be. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:07 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I agree |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:11 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Your initial premise that it was easy to say no to your kids, and that's |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:17 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. And honestly I don't begrudge them that |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:31 PM Response to Reply #74 |
94. I have totally lost track of what you're trying to argue. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:35 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. I will |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:45 PM Response to Reply #98 |
112. But back to my point: you have admitted that you, as a good parent, |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:51 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. I don't deny them everything |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:01 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. If you can walk through a store and tell your kid they can't have a brand |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:05 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Sure we have all that power and more |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:07 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Do you like contributing to the RNC? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:08 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. lol... so you accuse anyone with cable of supporting the RNC? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:14 PM Response to Reply #59 |
71. It was a question |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:18 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. Gotcha |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:23 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. Cut your cable |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:09 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. The big deal is that you were saying advertising towards kids is not the.. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:11 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. And I think you can't protect kids from advertising |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:13 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Before you said it was so easy for parents to control their kids' con- |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:19 PM Response to Reply #68 |
79. Hello? Billboards? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #79 |
88. 90% of the advertising your kids sees probably comes from TV, and the |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:30 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. I think you're misreading me |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
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Nadienne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
119. LOL |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:35 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. You know, I'm not trying to ban ads... |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:34 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. You haven't read the stats then. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:35 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I watched ads as a kid too |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:38 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Why does everything have to be so black and white for some? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:41 AM Response to Reply #15 |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:43 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. No, but the OP said that by using advertising money |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:46 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Well take it up with donsu..not me. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:57 AM Response to Reply #29 |
45. I agree the issues are related |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:01 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. What is up with you people? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:10 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. Once again, I didn't say that, did I? |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. You said: |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #66 |
81. I said that to you |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:22 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. So you're telling me what I can and can't talk about here? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:26 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. No I'm not |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:34 PM Original message |
I don't respect NG. It's become more about commerce than information |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
99. This is sad to say |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:40 PM Response to Reply #99 |
106. The internet. Michael Moore. I think the New Yorker, although watering |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:43 PM Response to Reply #106 |
110. The internet is a luxury for me |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
107. National Geographic is good by American standards... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:38 AM Response to Reply #11 |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:44 AM Response to Reply #11 |
25. That's why food cos want vending machines in schools. |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:49 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Exactly. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:59 AM Response to Reply #33 |
46. You know, I think capitalists should object to crap like that, because |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
22. In my logic class in college, our assignments were |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:46 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Ooooh good idea! |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
4. Remember when NG had that issue of their most famous photos... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:31 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. The National Geographic Channel did a story on that |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:39 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Obviously they searched far and wide. But they timed the issue to be |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:45 AM Response to Reply #17 |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:47 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. We're all victims! |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:49 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Lying is immoral |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:52 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Then by all means let's ban advertising that's not factual |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:57 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. "we should just raise smarter children" |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:01 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. Oh don't even start with me, sangh0! |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:12 PM Response to Reply #51 |
67. You are priviliged |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:24 PM Response to Reply #67 |
86. Oh here we go |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:38 PM Response to Reply #86 |
102. So, you have a job? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:40 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. Ah but I didn't say it was *all* on the parents. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:52 AM Response to Reply #26 |
40. Hey, I like capitAlism as much as the next guy, but I regret the time |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:56 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. NPR has been shillling for a while now |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. It's all part of the same plan. Why do you think they do that stuff? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
69. Issues are being conflated here |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:15 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. It's all part of the same problem: the corporatization of information |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:17 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. That's not "conflation" |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:29 PM Response to Reply #75 |
92. Yeah. How are these things NOT connected. NG is published by a huge |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:32 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. I remember reading a LTTE a few months ago.. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:37 PM Response to Reply #95 |
101. I'd love to know what they said |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:41 PM Response to Reply #101 |
109. It sounded like it was a left-leaning article. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:46 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. Gee, maybe they're actually |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:34 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. Ok you two I see the connection now |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:37 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. NGK is the pathway drug to NG. It's trying to get kids nostalgically... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:38 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. As for me I'm not a subscriber of any print anything. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:41 PM Response to Reply #96 |
108. Another important point |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:53 PM Response to Reply #108 |
117. And as you said |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:40 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Where am I paranoid? |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:50 AM Response to Reply #19 |
37. I am failing to find |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
111. Huh? |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:52 PM Response to Reply #111 |
116. They're tag teaming. |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:57 PM Response to Reply #116 |
121. The sad thing is... |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
48. It's in the propoganda playbook |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:03 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Wow. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
82. Absoultely true. Although INCREDIBLY ubiquitous, a good example |
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dukmon (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:38 PM Response to Reply #19 |
103. that may be what they give your kids up north or....... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:56 PM Response to Reply #103 |
120. I attended school in TX and we had coke & candy machines. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:52 AM Response to Reply #14 |
38. I thought you didn't read NGK, and your kids didn't read the ads |
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78. The thread is about the ads |
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118. Who cares? |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 02:22 PM Response to Reply #78 |
130. the thread was meant to show how corporations have taken over |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
30. Yes I think this is an overreaction |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:50 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Well put |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
61. It's a public health issue |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:16 PM Response to Reply #61 |
73. Thank you! |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:21 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. More propoganda |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Heart breakers. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:28 PM Response to Reply #76 |
90. sounds like |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:34 PM Response to Reply #76 |
97. What a strange attitude you have towards predatory advertising, Panicroom. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 01:06 PM Response to Reply #97 |
123. But see here's the thing |
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128. I guess our mistake was taking you seriously |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
91. And the cover story of the latest issue is : |
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DaveSZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 01:00 PM Response to Reply #91 |
122. I'm not going to read this entire thread, but... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 01:06 PM Response to Reply #91 |
124. You're killing me with the irony |
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Lisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
131. Neil Smith (geographer) would not be surprised! |
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bhunt70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
132. I like NG |
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