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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:29 PM
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I just saw George W Bush on the news announce that jobs....
...are out there if people are just willing to get retrained to qualify for them. He even suggested that laid-off workers could enroll in community colleges (that's a two year degree) and they would be hired by companies when they get re-qualified. These are engineers and computer software people who already have four-degrees. Why has he waited until now to suggest this? He could have put programs in place at the beginning of his term and kept teachers working. Now the community colleges are over-crowded and under-funded, so people who apply will be turned away. Typical knee-jerk reaction by BushCo, the republicans and the neo-con business community that continues to blow blue thick smoke up everybody's asses!:wtf:

This turd Shrub keeps talking to hand-picked audiences to preach his failed neo-con supply-sided economic concepts. They have not worked. His administration uses smoke and mirrors to convince the average worker that the American dream can be theirs too. In the meantime, he allows jobs to flow out of the country. His wealthy pals and corporations get more tax breaks and no-bid contracts while the American economy spirals down out of control.:freak:
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:30 PM
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1. Great news!
Edited on Tue Jul-20-04 05:31 PM by sangh0
Nothing pisses people off like struggling with bills while the President says "It's your own fault"

His daddy made the same mistake, going on vacation and riding cigarette boats while the country was under a recession
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:32 PM
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2. I heard part of that on AAR today...
He bumbled his words as usual, sounding like he didn't even believe his horseshit either.

Yep. That's the answer. Highly educated, qualified downsized people should get a fricking glorified HS degree to do what? Change oil at Jiffy Lube or cut hair at Head Start?

Why don't people throw eggs at him?
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:34 PM
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6. Uh, because the audiences are screened?
Did anyone catch any of his "Ask President Bush" event today? I swear they must have gotten the entire audience at the Iowa Republicans' prayer meeting, assuming there is such a thing. Someone asked if Ambassador Wilson lied. Another person wanted to know if Bush thought he could beat John Kerry, and there was wild applause and cheering when Shrub said he could. It was a show town meeting, that's all.

:puke: :puke: :puke:
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:34 PM
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7. He was in Cedar Rapids today
You had to prove you were a card-carrying Repug to get a ticket to the love-fest. There were 3,000 tickets, and they weren't to be handed out to "disruptors". So, no egg-throwers allowed in the audience.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:38 PM
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10. I know, I know.
The Bubble Boy must be protected at all costs! But still, you'd think one of those Republicans that can see his criminal ways would get in there and POUND HIM. Or at least ask a hard question.
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 06:49 PM
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25. We need infiltrators to go to these events
But they would have to be very brave people. I think I would puke if I had to be around all those wingnuts, so I don't think I could go undercover to one of these rallies. But there have to be some people out there somewhere who could do it!
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:46 PM
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13. It'll happen
Just give it time, he can only step on people's toes for so long until he REALLY pisses everyone off.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:33 PM
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3. Sure, go get retrained or go to community college
What, you have to eat in the meantime? And your family is complaining that they don't have a roof over their heads? Why didn't you choose to be born rich, for heaven's sakes? It's clearly your own damn fault, then.

Thanks a lot, President Silver Spoon. The man who was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:34 PM
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4. The point of this is that Bush
doesn't give a rat's behind for people. He has said before that he felt poor people were poor because they are lazy (source: his Harvard business professor). He probably thinks the same about people not working-his solution makes as much sense as Marie Antoinette's, when told the peasants had no bread to eat, said, "Let them eat cake."
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:36 PM
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8. Bingo
That's what it sounds like to me. Sadly, most RWers believe that crap, too.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:34 PM
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5. That is such bullshit.
We just filled a fairly low-level nutrition services secretary position ($14/hr.). I had over 80 applicants, many with college degrees. It's not for lack of training that people are not finding work. It's because the JOBS ARE NOT THERE!
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:50 PM
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17. We're almost loving this economy where I work
...Which is at a taxi company.

Back when Clinton was president, we used to have to spend thousands on help wanted ads to get one or two marginal applicants. Nowdays, we've got college graduates, post graduates, and former IT workers all wanting to drive a taxi! We haven't needed to place a help wanted ad since Shrub was elected, and we've now got the most over-qualified fleet of drivers I've ever seen.

Oddly enough, the worse the economy has been in the last 17 years I've been in this business, the better the taxi business has been. Probably because people can't afford to buy cars or their cars get repo-ed when they miss a payment, and/or they get drunk more often, etc...

Kind of depressing, I guess.

:shrug:

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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 06:02 PM
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21. I have no doubt that the taxi business is a good
economic barometer! Makes all the sense in the world.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:36 PM
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9. Oooo I hope he says that LOUDLY
and that it's ALL over the news. Some of his laid-off blue-collar worker supporters hearing him say "hey doofus maybe you should just go to COLLEGE". Yeah cause college is FREE, right?

Dipshit.

Say it again bush, but loudly this time and lean in to the microphone, so laid off Joe Bob in Dalhart who voted for you in 2000 can hear what you think of him!

LOL!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:39 PM
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11. Now I'm really depressed....
I've spent most of the day sending out resumes, but now I find out all I need to do is go to a re-education camp.... :(
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:42 PM
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12. Next time, kentuck
Try to be born to a wealthy family.
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blueknight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:47 PM
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15. my fiance is....
a professor of nursing. she said the majority of her students are people who already have A FOUR YEAR DEGREE! but they cant find any of the jobs shrub talks about, so they come to get a nursing degree so they can get a job to support their families. he is a fucking liar, as you all already know!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:46 PM
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14. This falls into the Level of: "What can we say to get more votes///
even if its Bull Shit?"

The Pubs are resorting to BS because it has worked so well in the Past...

Nothing is forever:

Murphy Sez So::: as in M LAW....

The BS Level is now very high for it to continue growth....

Meaning, you can hardly fool any more people than present...

Some of us are of the Reason and Sane Level and know BS from Walnuts....

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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:48 PM
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16. The real messed up part
is that the laid-off workers (as you said, engineers and IT) who already have a bachelors CAN'T TAKE OUT ANY FUCKING FINANCIAL AID to get retrained. What is this moran thinking? I'd like to get a job, hell, I have a bachelor's in geology from the University of Wyoming (a top ten geology program), live in Wyoming watching it get raped by the energy companies who authored this administration's energy policy, Dick Cheney (carpetbagger) is "from" Wyoming and in the White House. Mr. pResident, WHY CAN'T I FIND ANY WORK?????????????????????????????????
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:52 PM
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18. When Satan talks, nobody listens
Who does this guy think he is - E.F. Hutton or something?
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:54 PM
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19. reason #4,629 to despise that butthole.
everythiing that comes out of his headhole yap seems like coiling excremental sausages.

grrrrr.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:57 PM
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20. Lets See Mr. Bush My Qualifications Include:
Edited on Tue Jul-20-04 06:17 PM by mhr
BSEE - Bachelor of Science Electrical Engineering
MBA - Master of Business Administration
Commercial Pilot
Honorably Discharged Naval Officer

What do you want me to retrain for?

Unemployed IN Dallas , TX for four years.

The following graph from the Dallas Federal Reserve bank illustrates how hard Dallas has been hit under Bush.



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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 06:04 PM
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22. Oh my God
look at the Dallas line. That's where I live.

I don't have much advice mhr, except wishes for good luck.

Ever wanted to be a teacher? With your masters you'd be on a different pay scale......and you could go alternate certification, they give you three years.

Caveat: if it isn't something you'd REALLY love, don't do it. It's something you REALLY REALLY have to want to do. I'm sure you know that, just have to say it.

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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 06:12 PM
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23. Hi Moonbeam, Thanks For The Encouraging Words
Edited on Tue Jul-20-04 06:18 PM by mhr
I don't really think I am teacher material, but I appreciate the suggestion.

As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words.

For Dallas residents that graph says it all. I use it to explain to people why thousands are still unemployed in Dallas.

Many of us are refugees from the telecom industry. Most people are not aware that North Dallas lost 112,000 telecom jobs in 2001 and 2002. That represented 3.2 billion dollars in lost wages to the North Dallas economy. Those stats are from the Texas Workforce Commission courtesy the Austin American Statesman last year.

We all know that the Dallas Morning News is too pro-business to print this kind of truth.
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kittykitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 06:17 PM
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24. Re-Train? But He Cut Financial Aid! Flip-Flopped!
http://www.democrats.org/education/bushrecord.html

Bush Target: Higher Education

As tuitions skyrocket, Bush cuts financial aid. Since Bush took office, tuition and fees at public colleges have increased by an average of 35 percent, thanks to the failed economic policies that are bankrupting state governments. In fact, 49 out of 50 states saw college tuitions go up last year. And Bush isn't doing anything to ease that burden. He broke a campaign promise to increase the maximum Pell Grant to $5,100, is proposing to eliminate the LEAP program that provided more than a billion dollars in federal and state assistance to students in 2000, and is cutting $100 million in Perkins Loans.1,9,10,11


Bush Target: Job Training

Done with school? Bush isn't done with you. It isn't just traditional student who are bearing the burdens of Bush's attacks on education. The new Bush budget cuts overall employment training funding by $151 million and lumps four employment-training programs into a single block grant. Bush also is cutting overall vocational education by $316 million.1
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 06:54 PM
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26. Why didn't he do something against the ANTI-AMERICAN foreign outsourcing?
Why not give incentives for American companies to hire Americans and improve Americans instead of shoving us down the gutter and not lowering prices to compensate?

Those dislocated folks have basically worthless degrees...

And what jobs are out there? Retail, dime store security guard, and PUS package delivery (name changed as I don't want to give them free advertising).

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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:15 PM
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27. And where and what are these jobs to be retrained to qualify for?
He doesn't say because there aren't any! That is all a load of bullshit, but then what else is new? Everything out of his mouth is a load of crap.
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Aunt Anti-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:52 PM
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28. So, he's saying...
that I need to spend hundreds if not thousands to get a degree that later on I can use to wipe my *ss with?

That ticks me off. It is like he's blaming us now for his own screw ups. Oh, now I know what "rage against the machine" means. I am raging mad right now!
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