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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:32 PM
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"Republicans Don't Want To Ban Birth Control!"..'cept for the ones who do.
Someone started the thread in freeperville as a point of how ridiculous the argument is that Republicans want to ban birth control.

Didn't take more than 5 seconds for some of them to pipe in "Well, we should!"

Please, don't let me hang around freerepublic. I feel dirty.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1039468/posts?q=1&&page=1#1
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:36 PM
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1. The Repuke hidden agenda
reminds me of the Taliban. They want to restrict women's rights. First it is no abortion, then no birth control. Next will be forced marriage, totally obedience to the husband, then no work outside the home....it will go on and on until women will be considered the property of men, like they were in the nineteenth century in the West.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:40 PM
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2. Well, they want control over everyone.. And sex is one way to do that.
They learned from the Church.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:40 PM
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3. years ago a conservative christian colleague of my ex talked about
how un-christian contraception is........that every sexual intercourse MUST have the possibility of a child

my ex was still shaking his head weeks after that noon-time discussion......'he seems to think it's immoral that most sperm fail to impregnate'

in college, a Catholic friend said that the priest advising the campus Catholic group said that intercourse with contraception was 'mutual masturbation'

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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:45 PM
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4. Why oh why do you GO there?
Today a few fellow teachers and myself were having a little conversation and the topic turned to pregnant teens. One woman said she believes they shouldn't be allowed to go to school once they are pregnant and that child care in high school (for students' babies) is RIDICULOUS.

The other three teachers, including myself, jumped the hell all over her. We asked her if she thought pregnancy was catching or something. Then I told her the story of one girl I had who got pregnant...at first the other girls thought it was "cool" but when they saw her tired and puking all the time, then with constant back pain, then unable to fit in the desks, then having to think about being a MOTHER in the eighth grade, they did NOT think it was so cool anymore. Several told me she was a daily reminder of how important it is NOT to get pregnant young! She told me she was determined to stay in school no matter what. She had a baby boy in May of that year and this past June, she graduated from high school because our high school has child care so she was able to get her diploma.

If we hide them away and discourage them from finishing school when they are younger, there are high social prices to pay later. Why can't people understand that?

And going even further with this, if the pregnancies are prevented in the first place, even BETTER!!!!

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:50 PM
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5. There was a link in another thread.. And I couldn't help myself.
Edited on Tue Jul-20-04 05:51 PM by impeachdubya
You would think it would be a no-brainer, among self-appointed "pro-life" people who claim to oppose abortion, that if you could prevent the pregnancy in the first place, that would be preferable. But, many of them seem hung up on making sure that sinners are "punished" for the act of sex...

The other "arguments" I was able to glean from that thread?

  • We need more white people to combat the legions of mexicuns and brown-skinned folks comin in the country.

  • (this could be called the "Pat Buchanan Argument")

  • The Birth control pill is bad for women!

  • (Yeah, like unintended pregnancies aren't. This could be called the "shitty science" argument.)

  • The Birth Control kills little, tiny babies when they're the size of a single cell!

  • (I call this one the "Republican Platform".)

    edit: buchanan, not robertson. ooops.
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    LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 06:09 PM
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    6. The END OF ALL CONTRACEPTION!!!!!
    Access Denied

    Find out why growing numbers of doctors and pharmacists across the US are refusing to prescribe or dispense birth control pills

    by Caroline Bollinger

    In April, Julee Lacey, 33, a Fort Worth, TX, mother of two, went to her local CVS drugstore for a last-minute Pill refill. She had been getting her prescription filled there for a year, so she was astonished when the pharmacist told her, "I personally don't believe in birth control and therefore I'm not going to fill your prescription." Lacey, an elementary school teacher, was shocked. "The pharmacist had no idea why I was even taking the Pill. I might have needed it for a medical condition."

    Melissa Kelley, 35, was just as stunned when her gynecologist told her she would not renew her prescription for birth control pills last fall.

    "She told me she couldn't in good faith prescribe the Pill anymore," says Kelley, who lives with her husband and son in Allentown, PA. Then the gynecologist told Kelley she wouldn't be able to get a new prescription from her family doctor, either. "She said my primary care physician was the one who helped her make the decision."

    Lacey's pharmacist and Kelley's doctors are among hundreds, perhaps thousands, of physicians and pharmacists who now adhere to a controversial belief that birth control pills and other forms of hormonal contraception--including the skin patch, the vaginal ring, and progesterone injections--cause tens of thousands of "silent" abortions every year. Consequently, they are refusing to prescribe or dispense them.

    <snip>
    http://www.prevention.com/cda/feature2002/0,2479,s1-7342,00.html?

    This has been the goal of the anti-choice crowd from day one! The ultimate goal is to make contraception illegal.

    Anybody falling for the crap of the anti-choicers are unwittingly supporting the end of contraception and the relegation of women to the role of BABY MACHINES!

    Wake up, folks, we are on the cusp of a melded story between 1984 and The Handmaid's Tale.



    Personal note: These are not my words but a DUer those handle I have
    most regrettfully lost. I can't search at this time, please credit the right person if possible.
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    Imperialism Inc. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 06:20 PM
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    7. That is insane.
    I thought I had heard it all. I am in awe of their stupidity.
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    Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 06:34 PM
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    8. W. David Hager, chair of FDA Panel
    shares some shockingly similar views.

    http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/hager.htm

    Furthermore, in the recent debate on Plan B contraception, Hager argued against it's approval because it had the potential to "have a similar societal impact to the approval of the birth control pill" (horrors!) So, if the birth control pill was up for approval today, Hager would oppose FDA approval for that, as well.

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