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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:12 PM
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Iraqi police take over; look what we've done
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqi police and intelligence agents stormed through Baghdad's roughest neighborhoods this month, arresting more than 500 men in operations they hoped would be a spectacular debut for an all-Iraqi crime-fighting force.

Days after the raids were trumpeted on the news, however, most of the suspected kidnappers and carjackers were back on the streets for lack of evidence. The 150 or so who remained in custody this week were blindfolded for interrogations that included blows to the head and threats against their families.

"Don't talk to me about human rights," said one interrogator who punched several prisoners in front of a reporter. He asked not to be named because he frequently works undercover. "When security settles down, we'll talk about human rights. Right now, I need confessions."

The first major mission for the new Iraqi Interior Ministry revealed more about the law enforcers than about Baghdad's criminals. The security forces appeared severely lacking in human rights training, lifesaving equipment and, most of all, independence.

An American military commander, acting on his own, attempted to free some of the detainees and, in the process, undermined the Iraqi authorities and humiliated them in front of the suspects.
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An Iraqi lieutenant colonel, an intelligence officer under Saddam Hussein's regime, invited a Knight Ridder reporter to observe an afternoon of his interrogations. What followed was a scene that probably would have sparked a scandal had American forces been involved.

Blindfolded with scraps of cloth and bound by plastic ties, the sweaty suspects stumbled into the dim interrogation room and were pushed to the ground. The colonel kneeled and barked questions into their faces, threatening to arrest their families if they lied. MORE........

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/9192350.htm
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:16 PM
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1. Lovely.
Very nice indeed. "He who lives by the sword, shall die by it"
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:34 PM
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2. The words "democracy" and "freedom" are used to scare children
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5457519/site/newsweek/

Saleh is a 32-year-old Baghdad taxi driver who, with his uncle, was dragged from his car by gun-toting kidnappers in broad daylight. He was released after a beating and a ransom payment of several thousand dollars. He blames the Americans for allowing such criminals to flourish. ''These days, when we want to scare the kids in my family, we tell them 'Democracy is coming to get you' or 'Freedom is coming to get you'," he says with a bitter smile. ''The kids don't know what it means, but they run away."

I read this on a blog- Needlenose -and it's just stunning- He writes:

How's that for an accomplishment? A thousand dead soldiers, thousands more maimed, billions of dollars shoveled to corrupt mega-corporations spent, and all we've achieved in Iraq is to make freedom and democracy into dirty words.



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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:37 PM
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3. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Repeat after me: Iraq is a much better place without that evil Saddam Hussein!
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:56 PM
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4. We accomplished nothing
but death and destruction.

This 'new' govt will differ in one aspect: American soldiers are still suffering for it. The things in the article are just the ones they let us see, without their legs fully under them yet.

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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:50 PM
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5. A kick for Our Iraqi Police
Edited on Tue Jul-20-04 10:50 PM by party_line
because I haven't seen this article around.
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6. party_line
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