There is NO EVIDENCE that suggests that Iraq was after Niger yellowcake.

[stickdog]

I've read EACH and EVERY report. The Butler Report, the Senate Report and the original UK parliamentary report.

Here they are:

http://www.official-documents.co.uk/document/deps/hc/hc898/898.pdf

http://web.mit.edu/simsong/www/iraqreport2-textunder.pdf

http://www.cabinet-office.gov.uk/reports/isc/pdf/iwmdia.pdf

There is NO legitimate evidence presented in ANY of these documents to buttress the claim that Iraq sought yellowcake from Niger. NONE.

There is just one giant CYA circle jerk based on forged documents and flawed assumptions. There is NO EVIDENCE. I repeat, NONE.

If you feel differently, please present the actual evidence from the primary sources. I'm not talking about the Butler Report's CYA conclusions. I'm talking about the actual EVIDENCE.

There is NONE.

NADA.

NIL.

ZILCH.

ZERO.

[fearnobush]

1. We know this, but try convincing the dark gov't controlled Media.

[Birthmark]

2. Excellent post

That's what I came up with, too. :)

[gmoney]

3. Yellowcake found

...to be tasty, if unhealthy.

[CaTeacher]

16. Yum. I have bought yellow cake myself,

but prefer chocolate....

[stickdog]

17. The last word on yellow cake.

http://www.comedycentral.com/mp/play.php?reposid=/multimedia/chappelle/showclips_s2/213_blackbush.html

[elperromagico]

18. "Don't drop that shit here!"

[southernleftylady]

20. LOL Oh my gosh! that was too funny! lol thank you! n/t

[Cha]

4. This Is Good news and helps support

what Joe Wilson has been saying all along.

[jackofhearts]

5. Wilson was on PBS tonight...

He cornered the nazi republican fuck they had on...he brought up the fact that nothing in the report gave any new evidence of the claim but of course the fascist just keeps repeating this lateset spin by the republican noise machine and telling Wilson he should apologize to the president (which of course he didn't). This shit is so out of control...so Orwellian it is beyond belief. They can say whatever they want and the dumbed down masses swallow every fucking drop of it.

America should be absolutely ashamed of these last 4 years. Simply the darkest in America since the civil war.

[Cha]

6. So true! Wouldn't it be great if all of a sudden

the chickens stopped trying to elect Colonel Sanders?

And turned on those schlocks in the media(who should be indicted along with the entire bush gang?)

[KittyWampus]

7. So You're Saying Theres No Evidence Regarding Iraq/Niger Uranium

Right?

:)

[cornfedyank]

11. I thought it was the italian media that made up the yellowcake story.

sorry I can't remember which foreign paper i read it in.

I wish that Brit that killed himself was still here to tell his story.

i saw the interview the day before he died. he did not look distraught.

[hansolsen]

8. Thnks for the links, and I am prepared to take your word for the contents,

for many reasons, including the fact that the Repub line on this has never seemed reasonable to me -- it doesn't pass the lowest bar of common sense test.

It is readily acknowledged that Iraq had 500 tons of Yellow Cake left lying around from the old days when they had an active nuclear program. But that program and all its industrial infrastructure was blown to hell and gone in the 90s. There is not a shred of evidence Saddam had any capability to process the Yellow Cake he already had lying around -- why would he have wanted more??? It makes no sense.

And it certainly constitutes no threat to us or Israel. This is just pablum for the masses.

[JackRiddler]

9. I know, I know

The admission that the yellowcake story was bogus and that Bush's statement had not been vetted by the CIA came from Colin Powell and Ari Fleischer, for pete's sake.

All Wilson did in his original NY Times article was to say that his was one of three investigations and that none of them found any basis to the story.

Saw Republican Sen. Pat Bond (sp?) go against Wilson today on PBS. The best Bond could do was that an Iraqi delegation was sent to Niger to talk about trade. There is no record whatsoever they talked about uranium, but they could have.

That was it. Pathetic.

That being said, I have my doubts that Wilson and Plame aren't both CIA: He was #2 at the Bagdad embassy leading up to the 1991 Gulf War. This is commonly a CIA position, and then he meets a CIA wife. Hm. After the Kuwait invasion Ambassador Glaspie (who gave Saddam a pretty obvious green-light) left, Wilson remained. But anyway, who cares? To tell you the truth, I don't think it's so horrible to reveal the names of CIA agents. It's far worse that there should be a vast secret government apparatus with a black budget completely outside the purview of control by any open or democratic institution, and it's no surprise that this apparatus has produced a long history of crimes against humanity. Given that, and given the real crimes of the Bush admin, it's kind of surreal to hear all the people here crying that the Plame outing was "treason." But I digress.

Getting back to the point, revealing a CIA agent is in violation of the law, in fact a law put forward by Papa Bush himself. So someone in the Bush admin broke a law and they should suffer for it. Hoist by their own petard. If this is the way these guys are brought down, I'll be happy. Maybe it opens the door to investigating their real crimes.

[stickdog]

12. Agreed, JR. But the Plame outing is quite obviously Bush's Watergate.

Americans don't get to discuss the real scandals of our pseudo-leaders. That would be FAR too risky, and the true elite would be FAR too exposed.

What we get instead are watered down penny-ante stuff like a two bit burglary, lying under oath or outing a CIA agent. That's been the pattern ever since killing the Kennedys and MLK raised too big of a stink.

The other pattern, of course, is the Dean scream/Carter rabbit & lust/Pappy pukefest pattern. But that pattern won't work this campaign season since most people are now getting their news from sources that already agree with their solidified political stances.

No, the safest way for the elite to remove BushCo from office is through the felonious Plame outing. Plus, it has the added benefit of getting the left to identify with the "good guys" in mil/intel -- if only to serve as some sort of check on an otherwise effectively unrestrained executive branch.

[JackRiddler]

13. Yeh.

The Plame Game looks like an Agency op to depose the Bush mob, given that they are untouchable on their real crimes as that would expose systemic crime. Good luck to them.

ADD ON EDIT: Yeah, this angle with getting the left identify with the mil/industrial complex. No shit. I remember someone telling me the Zinni/Marshall secular faction had the upper hand in the Pentagon struggle with the Rumsfeld/Wolf/Boykin Apocalypse Now crew and actually having an initial reaction of, "good." Ha. So now we're going to cheer as the mainstream psyop crew takes control back from the Bush mob, and I have to confess this outcome would give me some relief.

Or look at the Kerry campaign, or much of Moveon.org for that matter: complaining that they could do a better job at "The War on Terror," instead of exposing it as the total scam it is.

[stickdog]

15. Yep. The reason we aren't actually fighting the "War on Terror" is the

EXACT same reason that the current heroin crop in Afghanistan is record breaking.

The power elite thrives on terror just as they thrive on the liquidity and laundering of the drug trade. It always has and always will. Terror is what gets nations to fight wars for the enrichment and power of an elite few.

BushCo wants to secure our ports and borders like they want a hole in the head. But instead of exposing the game, our shills (yes, even Dean, Nader and Kucinich to varying extents on this issue) are reduced to playing this rigged game using their bullshit rules and rhetoric.

Once again, we lack both a legitimate opposition party AND a legitimate media. And we won't get the former without the latter.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

21. I would also add the attempted assassination of George Wallace....

...during the election campaign of 1972 when it became clear that Wallace was going to pull quite a few votes from Nixon's crowd (which the current crowd greatly resembles).

[BillZBubb]

10. Yeah, Butler did a whitewash for Blair, and now the Repugs

here are trying to tie their deceptions to that. And even then, not one shred of evidence. Plus, yellowcake is useless without a massive centrifuge operation. It's just stupidity to muddy the water for the ignorant masses.

The Repugs are in overdrive throwing mud up against the wall to see what sticks this week. They attack Wilson, use Butler as "proof", leak on Berger, and have the press too cowed to cover Abu Ghraib.

[KoKo]

14. Agree, and those trashing Wilson about this are very suspect.

I've read it all, also. Nothing... One wonders what the "supposed" journalists do all day. They certainly don't seem to read like we do here. And if they do they only read their friends and repeat the meme of the day...

[elperromagico]

19. What the Bush Administration really meant was that Iraq tried to buy

urinal cakes from Niger. There was a bad connection on the phone line with British intelligence.