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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 11:44 PM
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Freepers: Clinton knew Iraqis helped w/OK City bombing (berger coverup)
Edited on Tue Jul-20-04 11:44 PM by gauguin57
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1175272/posts

Freepers are saying, apparently, that Sandy Berger was stuffing docs in his clothing because he's covering up the information that

1) Clinton knew that Iraqi terrorists were in on the OK City bombing (they helped McVeigh), and he was afraid he wouldn't get re-elected if we the people knew that, so his admin. blamed it on McVeigh/Nichols alone.

2) Clinton knew that foreign terrorists shot down TWA 800, and his admin. covered it up to save his own bacon.

3) Clinton "knew" 9/11 was al-Qaeda instantly, because if he suggested it was the Iraqis (which the Freepers are still insisting it was) then his previous coverups would be found out.

Freepers calling this Clinton's greatest crime.

SOMEONE ELSE COMMENT ON THIS; this just makes me want to go eat carbohydrates!!!!!!!!

Sandy, Sandy, Sandy. What were you thinking? Look what you've started. You've given the CUCKOOS more ammo!
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 11:45 PM
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1. ROTFL! I'm sorry! It's just too funny!
Nothing Sandy Berger was allowed to look at was particularly secret or important, and none of it was news to anybody.

He apparently (maybe) lost a couple of copies of drafts. The originals are in the right place.

There's no big secret here.

This is a bunch of hooey that Lucianne Goldberg dreamed up.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 11:47 PM
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2. You just wait
They'll figure out some way to include the Roswell New Mexico "cover up" in this.

Didn't Fox claim to have "alien autopsy" film footage? If it's on Fox, it has to be true, right?
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 11:48 PM
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3. Freeper freak ato work swears the Iraqi - McVeigh link is true.
I laughed so hard in his face I though he was gonna cry.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 11:50 PM
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4. So, if 9-11 didn't have anything to do with Al Qaeda,
then what was the rationale for invading afghanistan?

Seems like sooner or later one of these invasions isn't going to be justified. Dipshits.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 11:51 PM
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5. Except all he took with him were copies.
Not very coverup-worthy to leave the originals alone, eh?
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 11:53 PM
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6. What's interesting, though ...
Edited on Wed Jul-21-04 12:06 AM by gauguin57
(and I'm not saying Clinton covered up a damned thing) ... is that National Public Radio did a piece on the OK City bombing (lots of witnesses who weren't called to testify at the trials, who had seen other (unidentified) people with McVeigh at the bombing scene, and so forth)... it was a very long piece, with a lot of documentation, and they had me scratching my head by the end of it, wondering whether there really might have been a John Doe #2 and what really happened there. It wasn't about foreign involvement, but about White Supremacist groups (I think) that were robbing banks throughout the Midwest, raising money for their "cause." They supposedly had ties to McVeigh, and rented a garage in Oklahoma.

The NPR piece was not anti-Clinton Admin. at all ... just raised all sorts of questions -- was it just an Aryan Nation plot instead of a "lone nut who was pissed about Waco"?

I don't find it hard to believe that other people were involved with the OK City bombing -- helping McVeigh and Nichols. Don't know who they might have been, but I've always had an open mind on that point.

But the thought that Berger was stuffing OK City documents in his socks is just silly.
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CaTeacher Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:21 AM
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15. there really WERE some odd things about that
OK bombing. But, we will probably never get to the bottom of it. I have no idea what the truth is-just that some things were definitely odd and I can see why the conspiracy theories swirl.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 11:58 PM
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7. Bush 41
He was the guy responsible for repatriating all those Iraqis to Oklahoma after the Gulf War.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:01 AM
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8. Freepers are busy eating turds tonight
Hope they taste good:+
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:03 AM
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9. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Just keep reminding the freeps about those cover-ups by Bush&Co, like Rummy ordering anal rape of little boys and torture, child porn and snuff vids for he and his buddies.

If "Berger-Gate" is ammo, it's the equivalent of a .22 bullet, whereas torturing children is more like a 22 meg. atomic bomb.

I give a fuck anymore about RWers' feelings. I have been saying the truth in the most harsh way that I can, regardless of what they say or where we are. I especially like to do it in public in front of lots of people because if I get any lip, I challenge the freeps to go sign up to fight in Iraq and I offer them a ride right then and there. I also have NO compunction about accusing them of supporting, aiding and abetting child rapists and torturers.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:04 AM
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10. but, I thought it was Iran?
wait, I can't keep my cover stories straight. Iran, Iraq, if we ignore the fact they fought a bitter war for 20 years, they're all ragheads, right, so they must be on the same side, right?

god, what a bunch of fucking idiots.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:07 AM
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11. this is my favourite one
Edited on Wed Jul-21-04 12:09 AM by northzax
To: BILL_C
I'm breathless! This will make a great documentary!! Well done!!
But, we differ in that you think much more higly of Slick than do I. You suggest that his motivation for lying, treason and general dishonesty was reelection. I believe he was well paid for almost everything he did. The Saudis and Iraqis paid Willie to stay away from Osama. The money may have come from Marc Risch (who Willie pardoned) but it was Iraqi/Saudi money.

But, your script WILL make a great documentary! A sure winner at Cannes!!


3 posted on 07/20/2004 7:51:28 PM PDT by Tacis (,)
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hold it, the Saudis were paying Clinton? and here I thought they werw Bushies. ay, my head hurts.

the other thing they can't explain...since Jamie Gorelick is a Clinton lover covering up for him and everyone knows it...WHY THE FUCK DID THE REPUBLICANS APPOINT HER TO THE COMMISSION? can anyone tell me that?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:13 AM
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12. LOL!
What a buncha maroons!
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:35 AM
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21. How the fuck can those morans write a screenplay?
They can't even spell? What a bunch of dickheads. If only they could get their dingey panties in a bunch over misappropriation of war funds by Bush, or perhaps the outing of a CIA agent... I know, it's not as exciting or important as a blow job, or misplaced copies of paperwork, but if they could just get hard about that treasonous stuff, then we'd be getting somewhere.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:14 AM
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13. Back away from the carbs!!!
Don't do it!
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:21 AM
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17. Chomp chomp chomp
TOO LATE!
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:24 AM
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18. Well then I hope they are totally decadent carbs
And that they make you feel a little better about this utter BULLSHIT!!
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:33 AM
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20. Nothin' but the best, baby ...
Edited on Wed Jul-21-04 12:33 AM by gauguin57
... nothin' says "Bush is an effing idiot" like Cheetos and Sticky-bun ice cream.

And if Bush is still president tomorrow morning, I'm having carmel corn and cold pizza for breakfast!
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:18 AM
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14. When I read stuff like this...
...My tin foil hat doesn't feel so snug! :D
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:21 AM
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16. Right-wing militias have direct ties to Muslim terrorist? Wow!

Groups like the Michigan malitia have direct ties to the terrorist?! Wow!

Good thing the freeps support the Patiot Act.. Because it was intended for terrorist groups just like these Muslim tied militias.

Round them ALL up immediately!

No lawyer, no judge, no charges ..

Send them to Gitmo and a nice introduction to florecennt light tubes, and electric shock treatment on the testicals.

Heck, we got troops down there that need to blow off some steam!!

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:31 AM
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19. Proof that "Mad Cow Disease" exists in freepers' brains....
...and if anyone really believes that Berger is guilty of anything, I'd like to see more proof than the stuff being printed in what we used to call newspapers.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:41 AM
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22. They are a sick, sick lot.
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:51 AM
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23. The OKC thing has been debunked to death.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 01:04 AM
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24. Aw, hell -- they're gonna go on the radio tomorrow and ...
... beat this horse till it comes back to life.

See Freeper response:

"EVERYONE, call your local talk shows tomorrow and bring this up...We need to get a buzz going nationwide, letting people know about this coverup by Berger"
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 01:07 AM
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25. My first reaction to the "Berger doing a black bag job to cover up..."

is that all one has to do is ask "If there is anything there that
is harmful to Clinton, why would they have LEFT IT THERE????"
Why not simply never include it to begin with?

If the freeper reply is "Well, they didn't KNOW that 9/11 was going
to happen, so they had to remove the damning evidence that Clinton
screwed up at the first opportunity". OK. If it wasn't clear to
Clinton and/or Berger before they left office (whatever IT is), then
why would it be damning now? I'm sure that if Rummy KNEW that we
would be invading Iraq twice and holding out Saddam as evil incarnate,
even he might have thought twice about shaking his hand and smiling
his best "You are one of our very BESTest dictators in the world"
smile at Saddam back in the eighties. So what if Clinton either
missed something or did something that might be seen as helping
the terrorists NOW... unless it was really evil (like funding Bin
Laden or arming Bin Laden)... in which case, Bill would NEVER have
left such incriminating evidence around.

Logic defeats this as a story. We don't even need to know what it
was that Berger took with him or what got lost, or whether it was
copies or not, or even if he stuffed something into his sock.
It is simply a stupid attempt to spin up a news cycle (released
on a MONDAY, not a FRIDAY, months after the investigation was
over, apparently) by a increasingly desperate rethuglican party
trying to hold onto power.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 01:10 AM
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26. Aw, hell, Part 2 ...
Check out THIS Freeper response:

"I've long thought this was what the Dems' absolute hysteria in Florida, 2000, was all about. They simply could NOT let Bush win -- there was too much dirt which could be uncovered if they weren't in control."

Yeah. That was it. Right. We completely ignored the fact that Gore got more votes, both nationally AND in Florida, and that the right-wingers (with the help of the Supreme Court) were involved in a coup d'etat ... we were too busy trying to cover up Clinton high crimes and misdemeanors. Yeah, right, Freepers. (call the guys in the white coats) ... yeah, OK little Freepers, if it'll help you sleep tonight ...
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:10 PM
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27. bumping
for the day shift
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:33 PM
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28. Oh brother
:eyes:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:36 PM
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29. Iraqis were working with Freeper McVeigh? Now THAT's NEWS!
I thought Freepers like McVeigh HATED Ay-rabs!

Just another LIE! Don't these Freepers like McVeigh have ANY principles?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:38 PM
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30. If some Repub were to leak something like that to
the press, I bet they would bite. That's how insane some people have become in this country.
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