Berger and his socks

[underpants]

Okay this is part rant and part trying to catch up on yesterday. I was on the road and missed all of the news for the day.

So I arrive at my Mom's house and we talk about this and that and she says "What's this about Clinton's boy and his socks" (laughs). This is my own mother, my step-father watches Fox and well despite my ardent efforts to get her to seek other sources she hasn't -she knows better-- it is very disappointing.

So I pick up the Richmond Times-Dispatch (often cited on Fox) and found the AP wire report on page A6. Read through it. Looked up at my mom (my brother sitting there too) and said "Doesn't say anything about socks in this AP wire report!"

I had heard this nonesense started Tuesday night on Hannity and someone posted where it seems to have started from ---Newsmax.

They have a one day flood the news cycle BIG LIE and it seems to be working. Wednesday morning on CNN Jack Cafferty cracked a joke about it so it is planted with the CNN devotees as well

"Is it possible to inadvertently put things in your socks?" CNN anchor Jack Cafferty asked on air yesterday morning, adding to the tabloid-driven chatter about one of Sandy Berger's alleged modes of transporting materials from the National Archives. "It's just something that I was pondering in the middle of the night. I couldn't sleep." WaPo

Of course Alan Murray's widely read article sets the record straight, see NBC is covered.

http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/CNBCTV/Articles/TVReports/P89863.asp

And, by the way, it seems Berger didn’t actually put documents in his socks.

[KharmaTrain]

1. Blast Fax In Action...

This came right off Rove's desk and onto Limbaugh's fax machine...that's where this crap began. It's was Oxy-Rush who started the "in his socks" crap that got picked up by Faux and CNN and then by the evening was assumed to be true. Yep, it was a true hatchet job and you got a first hand view of it.

The good thing is this story will blow over by the weekend, when the focus again shifts to what the report says and how poorly this regime acted...or didn't act. Those pictures of the hijackers waltzing through the airports should be getting more play than Clinton's penis, but then when you've only got one tune to sing, you find ways to make Inagodadavida sound like America the Beautiful.

[dryan]

2. Maybe....

Socks was there with Berger at the National Archives and was helping him go through the material. I mean Socks and sox sound alike! Ha Ha! This has to be one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard. I liked what John McCain had to say; I 'm paraphrasing but he said that it didn't sound like something Sandy Berger would do. Grasping at straws is what it sounds like to me.

PS- Socks is probably the only living thing in the Clinton White House that wasn't indicted.

[Ripley]

3. What does your PS mean?

Make me a list of who in Clinton's White House was indicted. Then make me a list of who in Raygun's White House was indicted and convicted.

To Underpants: yes the meme got around quick. On CSPAN this AM I heard a repuke call in from Denver and she said "..stuffed shit down his pants" and they didn't cut her off for cussing. Of course the wimpy Texas Dem did not correct that.

[underpants]

6. A good summery on Reagan Clinton CONVICTIONS

http://www.geocities.com/thereaganyears/sleazefactor.htm



"By the end of his term, 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations."
--Haynes Johnson, Sleepwalking Through History: America in the Reagan Years

Gary Trudeau in one of his Doonesbury cartoon strips made a comparison of criminal convictions during President Reagan's term in office versus President Clinton's term. Trudeau later responded to questions from readers on this subject (see box below).

Number of Reagan administration era convictions in the Iran-contra scandal: 14 (two overturned on appeal).
Number of Reagan officials convicted for illegal lobbying: 2 (Michael Deaver; Lyn Nofziger, overturned on appeal).
Number of Reagan officials convicted in Housing and Urban Development scandal: 16.
Total number Reagan era convictions: 32 (the number cited in the strip -- 29 -- arrived at by subtracting the 3 overturned cases).
In addition, Bush pardoned Reagan's Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, indicted on 5 charges.

Moreover, the record of actual convictions doesn't tell the whole story. Over 30 additional Reagan appointees resigned or were fired following charges of legal or ethical misconduct, including Secretary of Interior James Watt, Secretary of Interior Raymond Donovan, CIA Director William Casey and EPA Administrator Anne Burford. Many dozens more were investigated.

Contrast this to:
Number of Clinton officials indicted or convicted in Whitewater, Travel Office, FBI files, Monica Lewinsky, Bruce Babbit, Michael Espy investigations: 0
Asst. Attorney-General Webster Hubbell was convicted of embezzlement, a crime he committed before joining Clinton Administration.

Also
http://www.bushtimes.com/cgi-bin/iowa/news/record.html?record=1278

Bush II official appointed to National Security Council who plead guilty to ran-contra crime and was pardoned by Bush I: 1 (Elliot Abrams)

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3341.htm

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/12/20021202-14.html
For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
December 2, 2002

Statement by the Press Secretary





National Security Advisor Dr. Condoleezza Rice announced today the appointment of Elliott Abrams as Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Near East and North African Affairs, including Arab/Israel relations and U.S. efforts to promote peace and security in the region.

[dryan]

7. Cool your jets!

Don't you recognize sarcasm when you see it?

[noonwitch]

8. And other republicans wonder why dems respect McCain

Because he's not a parrot. He thinks for himself. I don't agree with him always, but at least he's fairly honest.

Good for him to speak out against the bullsh*%.

[gasperc]

4. I'm glad Cafferty made a joke out of the joke that it is

it's gone from socks to pants to undergarments sooner or later they'll say he ate the documents and shit them out later

[underpants]

5. Can you prove he DIDN'T!

Huh? Keen-ya?