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MaryH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 10:41 AM
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Kerry Is Ahead in Missouri
I just read that this morning. I wonder if it is really true - hard to believe as this state is so conservative.

But I guess there is still a big difference between conservative and stupid.
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 10:44 AM
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1. MO conservative
Not all of MO is conservative.

Most of the rural areas are, and some of the wealthy areas.

Much of the St. Louis area is not, Columbia is not, and from what I understand, Kansas City is not.

And if enough of the conservatives become disenchanted with Bush, Kerry can win the state.

The question is whether enough of them will be unhappy enough with Bush not to vote for him.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 10:47 AM
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2. Bush has screwed Mo. royally
with the Job-loss recovery.
And even the hill-billies know it.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 10:54 AM
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5. I beg to differ with you..........
Kansas City is extremely conservative. Arrogantly, ineptly, anti-progressively conservative. Conservative with a capital "C".

I love it here, though. It's home. : ^ )
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 10:58 AM
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7. KC
I'm just going by what I've heard.

Notice how I caveated my statement on KC.

I don't have any direct experience, so I'm merely going on hearsay.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 11:09 AM
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9. Depends - Blue Springs or Lee's Summit, sure - very GOP
Kansas City proper, though, is about as Dem as it gets.
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MaryH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 12:46 PM
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14. I live N or the River in KC
and its pretty conservative up here. Lots of auto asembly workers, airport mechanics and huge Evangelical Churches - those churchs have thousands of members.

But the Evangelicals that I know are really nice people - and very honest. I wouldn't think that Bush and Cheney's behavior would go over really well with them. But I could be wrong.
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 06:52 PM
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22. the city of Kansas City is pretty spread out
the city limits go into Jackson, Clay, and Platte Counties, most of Jackson and Clay are pretty Democratic
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 06:48 PM
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20. not all of it
at least not the part where the billboard was
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 06:04 PM
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19. Springfield sports MORE Kerry'Edwards bumperstickers than Bush/Cheney ....
I didnt think it was possible, but that's how I see it ...
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 06:50 PM
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21. a few Wal-Mart heirs live in Columbia
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 10:53 AM
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3. bush* is an ass everywhere
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 10:53 AM
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4. Missouri is not called the "Show-Me State" for nothing.
(hint, hint, George)

:kick:
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 10:58 AM
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6. Here's a link...
Edited on Thu Jul-22-04 10:58 AM by Viking12
Missourians split on Kerry, Bush

By STEVE KRASKE

The Kansas City Star


Missouri, considered the best presidential bellwether state in the nation, is torn between Sen. John Kerry and President Bush, a new poll shows.

With just more than three months to go before the November election, the statewide survey found Kerry leading Bush 46 percent to 44 percent. But the poll's 4-point margin of error suggests the race remains a virtual tie.

Conducted for The Kansas City Star and KMBC-TV by Market Research Institute of Mission, the poll found that just 1 percent of respondents favored third-party contender Ralph Nader. Nine percent were undecided.

“You're looking at almost a dead heat,” said Stephen Caliendo, a political scientist at Avila University in Kansas City. “I think that Missouri is probably very similar at this point in time to other swing states, in that it is so closely divided.”




http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/9210901.htm?1c
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 12:22 PM
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13. "But the poll's 4-point margin of error suggests the race remains
a virtual tie."

or it could mean that Kerry is at 50 and Stupidhead is at 40 you asshats!!

I'm sick of them giving this malfunctioning pseudo-human the benefit of the doubt.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 10:59 AM
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8. I heard the other day that Kerry is pulling ads from MO,
Edited on Thu Jul-22-04 10:59 AM by buycitgo
cause it's slipping away

those there: are his local ads disappearing

I also saw on tube that it's slipping out of swingland, moving to Bush

hope that's not right, but what's source of Kerry doing better?

got any corrob? hope so.

if this is true, it's BAD news for the fascista

EDIT: just saw the above post.......excellent!
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 12:19 PM
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12. pulling ads from MO
I haven't watched a lot of TV lately, so I'm not really sure.

But, I think a bunch of people freaked out when there was a report that Kerry wasn't going to be running TV ads in a number of swing states.

I think it's a temporary situation, with the VP pick and the convention coming up, providing some publicity.

Also, he's got to be more concerned with ads closer to the election.
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SaintLouisBlues Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 05:33 PM
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15. Just saw a Kerry ad here in the STL
It was a good one: "We shouldn't be opening firehouses in Baghdad while they're closing them here".
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 05:51 PM
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18. They're only pulled temporarily because of the Dem Gov. primary
Incumbent Governor Holden and State Auditor Claire McCaskill are locked in a tight race for the Democratic nomination for Governor, saturating the airwaves. The primary is August 3rd, after that Kerry/Edwards are planning a trip to the state and are also planning to increase their ads in Missouri.
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 06:54 PM
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23. I'm still seeing ads for both on TV
Chimpy is running ads on the hate radio stations 980 and 710
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 11:11 AM
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10. And he's doing it without Gep on the ticket too.
IIRC, it's 46:44:1(Nader) with 9 undecided. More than half of that 9 would almost definitely break Kerry if the election were today.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 11:34 AM
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11. Oh god, let it be so!
We have a chance here, I've always thought so. How else did we get Dems elected to most of the statewide offices (non-legislative)? Progressives, I know you're out there!

Missourians, by the way, check the Missouri forum for the New York Times anti-Blunt editorial I posted there earlier today. It's political dynamite!
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 05:37 PM
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16. Outstate and rural MO is conservative.
KC and the St Louis area are less conservative with pockets of liberalism thrown in (U City, a suburb near St Louis for instance). Conceal and Carry originally lost in MO because of votes in St Louis City, St Louis County and Kansas City.

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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 05:43 PM
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17. Good
Plus Missouri we will be able to knock Bush out of office. And slate was saying a month or so ago that Kerry couldn't win in Missouri.
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