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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:36 PM
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Franken is Going After Stossel
Using his own recordings to do it. This should be fun.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:41 PM
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1. It's wonderful
Thank heaven for Franken. Even I never realized the extent of their lies before Franken came along.

65% of Americans will receive means-tested benefits at some time im their lives but it doesn't mire them in poverty. He's talking about his mother-in-law now.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:44 PM
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2. kick
It's awesome! Listen!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:47 PM
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5. This contest if simply not fair
Al is a man - Stossel is a child.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:45 PM
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3. Go Al, go!
Stossel is the only "reporter" who has to have his own special dispensation at ABC because his personal bias is so obvious. Mr. "Give me a break" is the master of the selective use of data and fake outrage. At least with most commentators, they will tell you when they're reporting facts and when they're giving you their analysis (even Rush does that), but Stossel dresses up his opinion as if he's Moses coming down off of Sinai with the tablets.

Take him down, Al.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:46 PM
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4. Wow... he's given it to Stossel
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:48 PM
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9. This is like watching a lousy game show contestant
he is so outmatched
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:47 PM
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8. poor Stossel
he's used to "fair and balanced" Fox

:D

Al is ripping him to shreds.

on edit: Al is NICELY ripping him to shreds. :D
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:47 PM
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6. Oh this is good.
:D

I hate that mustachioed fucker.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:49 PM
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12. ditto
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:47 PM
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7. "You going to let me answer?"
Whine, whine, whine, whine, whine.

Al is getting to him, and it's great.
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savistocate Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:59 PM
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20. Hearing this--I'll catch a replay
I couldn't stomach it--turned it off..like the friend Mark exchange.
At times Al has some hesitance that bugs me.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:48 PM
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10. He didn't know what CHIPs was.
:o
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:50 PM
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13. jon stewart gave it to him, too
that was the very first time I saw him upbraid a guest
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:52 PM
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16. Look, if you're going to write a book about the war on poverty...
You should at least know the names of the programs you're ripping apart.
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bossfish Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 07:14 PM
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37. I saw that...Stewart kicked his ass
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:50 PM
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14. The TV show, or the healthcare system for children?
:D
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:52 PM
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17. Well, the moustache says he knows the TV show...
:D:D:D
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Mr. Jinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:49 PM
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11. Franken's on his game today!
What a great show!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:02 PM
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27. He is handing Johnny his ASS!
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:51 PM
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15. While I love what Franken is doing, you have to wonder how much
Edited on Thu Jul-22-04 01:52 PM by linazelle
good it amounts to when Stossel lied to millions and less than one percent of them hear Stossel's comeuppance. It's a start, but the mass disinformation is terrible. That's why Stossel's so calm, he knows few hear the truth--he knows few of those he lied to will see him made out to be the liar he is.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:11 PM
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33. You're completely right about that imbalance
And it will be people like me who pay the price for that disinformation.

I really can't listen, as it's my survival that's going down.

Kanary
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:53 PM
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18. Stossel has done one good thing in his life
The war on drugs special. Other than that he's a complete idiot.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:00 PM
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25. he just blamed the producer for twisting his work!!!!
too bad al didn't give him the raspberry for that

something about using a quote from one of the Galbraith's to support his position, when it had to do with something completely different

doesn't he WATCH HIS OWN segments before they air?

what a freaking LIAR!!!!!!
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:55 PM
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19. Did I just hear him say he's doing a special on John Edwards &
trial lawyers this Friday? Fucker.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:00 PM
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24. I'm sure he'll talk about CP
and how Edwards is responsible for C-sections. Christ it's so predictable. Maybe John will forget that it's juries, not lawyers, who award damages.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:59 PM
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He's pulling a Chimpy!!!
IT'S MY PRODUCER'S FAULT!!!
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:59 PM
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21. I loved when Stossel complained about them talking to much
And Al sai d"well....go ahead" and poor Stossel just didn't know what to do.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:04 PM
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29. I'm getting it a few minutes later
I just heard that. JS came up with such a lame ass responce.
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:59 PM
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22. Stossel's answer to everything, "I didn't know"
what a moron. FIND OUT before you report it! Idiot. "I didn't know" is his excuse for everything he lies about. Great interview Al!
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:00 PM
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23. HOLY SHIT Galbraith is on the phone!
Ripping Stossel!
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:03 PM
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28. I wondered who that was; just caught the end
can you please summarize?

JS was sure whiny

too bad Al didn't tell him he has his own, uninterrupted platform, during which he gets to lie, unabated
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:08 PM
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32. Stossel interviewed Galbraith for a show
Anyway, Stossel cut his 2 hr interview down to a soundbyte that he used to prop up his opinion. Of course, the soundbyte was taken entirely out of context (it basically cut Galbraith's opinion on the impact of the continentalization of the New Deal down to "Europe could learn something from America", which Stossel used to "prove" his point that America's "economic freedom" was the reason for our prosperity, which wasn't the point of JKG's statement at all) and Galbraith called him on it.
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comsymp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:01 PM
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26. Thanks from the cuberats /s
20 posts so far and no details yet. That's reeeeeally annoying, ya know.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:08 PM
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31. To be fair, it was a fairly intricate discussion
about Stossel's selective use of data in his discussion of benefits to the impoverished. It didn't lend itself well to internet reportage, except, as posts above indicate, his lack of knowledge about CHIPS, etc. and his desire to prevaricate when confronted with his mistakes.
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comsymp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 07:12 PM
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36. Now THAT was helpful~
Seriously. Thanks.

It's just a very common, and very frustrating, occurrence here.
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xcmt Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:06 PM
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30. Transcrips?
Does anybody know if Air America makes text transcripts of their radio shows readily available, and where precisely I could find them? My connection is too slow to stream audio reliably, and I kind of want to follow this.
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:34 PM
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34. You can download archives
http://www.airamericaplace.com

Also, the Al Franken Show replays 11pm-2am.
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xcmt Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:54 PM
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35. Thanks
We don't get Air America out here in West Virginia. I'm surprised we get NPR.

You can, however, listen to Rush on two different stations simultaneously. I don't think there's a man on this planet that's more intellectually and morally repulsive.
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