In-flight cell phones 'worked great' in test...(but...but...but...)

[SoCalDem]

Barbara Olsen talked to everyone on earth on 9/11 on HER cell..How'd she dooooo dat??

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http://www.usatoday.com/money/biztravel/2004-07-19-aircells_x.htm
In-flight cell phones 'worked great' in test
Posted 7/19/2004 9:39 PM Updated 7/20/2004 7:50 AM

In-flight cell phones 'worked great' in test
By Dan Reed, USA TODAY
The race is on to enable airline passengers to make and receive cell phone calls in flight.

Cell phone company Qualcomm (QCOM) has teamed with American Airlines (AMR) to develop satellite-based air-to-ground cellular service. Several smaller companies are working on rival systems. In-flight cell service could be introduced within two years and become commonplace within four, developers believe.Last week, American and Qualcomm officials circled over West Texas in a jetliner making calls from their cell phones. The Federal Aviation Administration and the Federal Communications Commission authorized the flight to test the technology's safety and transmission quality.

How do you talk on a jet politely?

Cell phone service at 30,000 feet promises to be a mixed blessing.

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"It's not a trivial issue," says Bill Peltola, vice president at AirCell, a Colorado company developing one of several air-to-ground cell systems.

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Even if some passengers resent cell phones invading airplane cabins, the airlines won't hesitate to offer the systems once they are approved for use by the government, Peltola says."The airlines know that so many of their customers want this that the benefits will outweigh the costs," he says. "It worked great," says Monte Ford, American's chief information officer, and the special flight's host. "I called the office. I called my wife. I called a friend in Paris. They all heard me great, and I could hear them loud and clear."

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lots more...

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

1. God I'm going to fucking kill someone if i have to deal with them

for an entire flight.

[LastDemocratInSC]

10. The idea behind cellular telephones is the small area of the cell

Cellphones operate at insanely high frequencies - in the microwave region of the radio spectrum. Their range on the ground is limited, therefore, by line-of-sight rules. That's why there are so many cellphone towers - the areas of each cell are very small - on the ground.

Take a cell phone up in an airplane and a gazillion cellphone towers will try to interact with the cellphone and with enough phones in the air, that could lock up the entire system.

The existing airplane cellphone systems use widely spaced antennas that are shielded from signals on the ground - they pretty much point straight up and are aligned with the major airline routes around the country.

I think that a lot of work is going to be needed to enable our cellphone systems to tolerate phone signals that are picked up by thousands of towers over hundreds of miles from 30,000 feet.

[Eloriel]

2. I thought she used the plane's phone

You know, the ones in the back of the seat in front of you. Seems to me I remember something about borrowing a credit card or something. I could be wrong.

[SoCalDem]

3. I though her hubby Ted, said she used her cell phone..

The interview with LarryKing/.
http://www.911research.wtc7.net/planes/analysis/phonecalls.html

Phone Calls

The Many Oddities of the Alleged Calls From Doomed Flights
There are a number of oddities about the alleged cell phone calls from the people on the doomed flights. Here are just a few.

The calls have a peculiar distribution with thirteen calls attributed to Flight 93 passengers, but only zero to one attributed to passengers on any of the other flights. Why would the hijackers be so permissive on that flight but only selectively permissive on others, letting Flight 11 Attendant Madeline Sweeney talk for the entire hijacked portion of its route?

Several calls have the ring of fakery. They include the following:
The call to Mark Bingham's mother, Alice, from someone claiming to be her son, was very short. After his awkward introduction, the caller failed to respond to Alice's twice-repeated question, and then the line went dead.

In one of the calls attributed to Barbara Olsen, the caller asked Ted Olsen "What should I tell the pilot?", referring to Chic Burlingame, the captain, who was then supposedly seated in the rear with Barbara. Chic was a graduate of Naval Academy and flew F-4s in Vietnam. It seems highly doubtful that he could have been persuaded to hand over the stick without a fight, and agree to sit in the back of the plane, especially when controllers had been broadcasting to pilots that Flight 11 had been hijacked.

There is no public evidence of recordings of any of the conversations, despite the extended length of some of them, except for Madeline Sweeney's alleged call.

Sweeney, who was the "anchor" for Flight 11, says: "I see, buildings, water, ... Oh my God!", immediately before the crash, as though she, a Massachusetts-based flight attendant of 12 years, had never seen the Manhattan skyline before. Supposedly she was continuously monitoring the view out a window.



many more links that indicate CELL phone

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=barbara+olsen+phone+call

[Wonk]

6. Another link

http://www.msnbc.com/news/627214.asp?cp1=1

(snip)

Barbara Olson called her husband, U.S. Solicitor General Ted Olson, on a cell phone twice.

[RoyGBiv]

8. Refresh my memory...

This is a tangent, but a related issue...

Am I mistaken in thinking that Olsen is the one and only source of the notion that "box cutters" were used by the hijackers? It might seem a silly point of focus, but with the way this yarn as spread around to the point its a part of popular culture, it seems important somehow.

[SoCalDem]

9. Her story was the ONLY story for a few days...

and ole Ted didn;t seem to be that heartbroken either..

more below...secure :tinfoilhat:


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=911+boxcutter+olsen


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[Bluebear]

5. Barbara Olson's "Phone Call" From Flight 77

Presented without comment, just another point of view:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steveseymour/lies911/lies.htm

This is a story about a little white lie that bred dozens of other little white lies, then hundreds of bigger white lies and so on, to the point where the first little white lie must be credited as the “Mother of All Lies” about events on 11 September 2001. For this was the little white lie that first activated the American psyche, generated mass loathing, and enabled media manipulation of the global population.
Without this little white lie there would have been no Arab Hijackers, no Osama Bin Laden directing operations from afar, and no “War on Terror” in Afghanistan and occupied Palestine. Clearly the lie was so clever and diabolical in nature, it must have been generated by the “Power Elite” in one of its more earthly manifestations. Perhaps it was the work of the Council on Foreign Relations, or the Trilateral Commission?
No, it was not. Though at the time the little white lie was flagged with a powerful political name, there was and remains no evidence to support the connection. Just like the corrupt and premature Lee Harvey Oswald story in 1963, there are verifiable fatal errors which ultimately prove the little white lie was solely the work of members of the media. Only they had access, and only they had the methods and means.
The little white lie was about Barbara Olson, a conservative commentator for CNN and wife of US Solicitor General Ted Olson. Now deceased, Mrs Olson is alleged to have twice called her husband from an American Airlines Flight 77 seat-telephone, before the aircraft slammed into the Pentagon. This unsubstantiated claim, reported by CNN remarkably quickly at 2.06 am EDT <0606 GMT> on September 12, was the solitary foundation on which the spurious “Hijacker” story was built.
Without the “eminent” Barbara Olson and her alleged emotional telephone calls, there would never be any proof that humans played a role in the hijack and destruction of the four aircraft that day. Lookalike claims surfaced several days later on September 16 about passenger Todd Beamer and others, but it is critically important to remember here that the Barbara Olson story was the only one on September 11 and. 12. It was beyond question the artificial “seed” that started the media snowball rolling down the hill.....MUCH MORE

[merh]

4. Yes, the planes' phones worked, several passengers called

their families, including Barbara Olsen. The phones that didn't work were * and f'u's! Wonder why that was, maybe someone should work with the admin to get them better phones - maybe Qualacom could help the admin!

:shrug:

[Jacobin]

7. I've used my cell phone on twin props at 20,000 feet.

If you can hook up to a cell, it works.

No voodoo here.

[WoodrowFan]

11. more tin foil bs

the fact that cell phones work fine in aircraft has been shown again and again and again. Maybe you should read sites that are NOT run by the mentally ill??

[SoCalDem]

12. USA today isn't that great...but it's not exactly Drudge

:)

[WoodrowFan]

13. but Rense///

and the other "911 skeptic" sites should be called 9-11 septic sites.

[SoCalDem]

14. I copied the google page... didn;t notice Rense

:)

[WoodrowFan]

15. NP

sorry If I went off, but this has been answered many times before, including by pilots.

[One_Life_To_Give]

16. Work perhaps but Certified?

The phones will work in the plane if they can reach a tower/cell.
The issues become verifying continuity of coverage across all the air routes to be serviced, so you don't drop calls.
Dealing with multiple towers receiving. While handling calls at ground level the cells have a easier time telling which cell you are closest to/ gives best signal. When your in the air many sites may be reporting equal signal strength.
Certifying the effect of the phones on the airplane and the airplane on the phones. Last time I checked a single model electronic product had to be tested on Each model plane it was to be certified for before the FAA would grant Certification.

[Pastiche423]

17. What ever happened to critical thinking?

Did the fear that was and has been artificially induced make it disappear? Can we get it back?

Do the majority of Americans want to remain children, listening only to their daddies (government)?

Barbara Olsen + cell phone calls + boxcutters believers = stupid, terrified children.

[alarimer]

18. great

Now in addition to having to listen to screaming brats, deal with assholes who won't stop talking to you, we will now have to deal with people yakking on their cell phones for the entire flight. Another reason not to fly. Or maybe it is time to invest in some noise cancelling headphones.