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newscaster Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:03 PM
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The Missing Bush TANG recortds have been found
TYhos pay records for Bush while he was in the Texas Airt National Guard were not burned after all. They have been found and while they dont exonerate Bush, they dont indict him either.

That word just came on CNN
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Sub Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:04 PM
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1. Wow. There must be a God.
Because it's a miracle that something that was "inadvertantly destroyed" has made a reappearance.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:05 PM
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supposedly there are 2 or 3 copies....
maybe that's what sandy had in his socks? :)
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:05 PM
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3. They were inadvertently not inadvertently destroyed.
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fdr_hst_fan Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:05 PM
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4. Complete and undoctored?
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:06 PM
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5. This just in....
The records that were not destroyed, have just been destroyed. That is all.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:05 PM
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2. If this were Clinton...
ahhh,...you can fill in the blanks...we've all been around the block here forever.

Sheesh.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:42 PM
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29. Yes
Remember the fuss when Hillary's billing records were found?
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Peachhead22 Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:58 PM
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35. Microfilm-gate
:eyes:
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:06 PM
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6. Someone finally found
an old mimeograph machine, so the could make fake copies.


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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:07 PM
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7. Let us decide.....you report...
"They have been found and while they dont exonerate Bush, they dont indict him either."

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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:07 PM
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8. Then What Exactly DO They Show?
Was he paid for the days he was in Alabama?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:23 PM
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22. These are pay records not attendance records
From what I understand. They will show he got paid not that he was there. Inference that he MUST have served because the military is SO careful with its money -see LBN thread on us buying planes that can't be flown in combat

If he got paid for something he didn't do uh I think that is called FRAUD.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:28 PM
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26. Actually They Show HE DIDN'T GET PAID!!!
He wasn't there, the records show he didn't get paid. See my post #25 and the one I'm responding to w/ the graphic of the payroll. He was missing for months and didn't get paid!!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:33 PM
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27. That Sir is treasonous
and W should be punished accordingly.

BAM!
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:11 PM
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37. I'm sure their story will be that he put in the necessary number of days
But I don't think anyone else gets to choose when they want to show up. I don't know what the required number of hours would be for someone in his situation. Any old Air National Guard members here ?
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:07 PM
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9. Surprise Surprise
Surprise in my best Gomer Pyle voice.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:08 PM
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10. How can they not exonerate him or indict him?
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 03:08 PM by Joanne98
I guess this means he got paid for not being there. The most damning evidence that he went AWOL is that not ONE person remembers him being there. We should jump on that. Not one BUDDY?
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:12 PM
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12. The Onion uncovered an AL hooker who vouched for him, in more ways than 1
Of course that was before the unpleasent long term effects of cocaine abuse set in. That poor dumb bastard.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:17 PM
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14. Hookers and coke
President Bush says, "Alabama... Ah, good times. Good times."
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:16 PM
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13. I'm constantly amazed
by the VietNam vets they can find to pick at Kerry's service while not being able to come up with a single witness to Bush doing his time. I was in boot camp in '57 with Smiley Burnett's son and I can recall that. But yet those guys that served with the son of a congressman, head of CIA, V-P , prez, head of the RNC just can't dredge that up from the old memory.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:19 PM
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20. I was in the military
I still have the names and SSNs of about 20 people whom I served with in basic training. You mean to tell me that nobody got Georgie's address??

I guess he wasn't that well liked.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:10 PM
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11. I think this is it
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:18 PM
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15. He showed up eighty two days in a two year period
Hell it's better than he has done as pResident.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:23 PM
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23. LOL!!
Damn, that's really funny in a horrid sort of way, since it's all too true.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:18 PM
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16. That's it? Just this one peice of paper? (image included)
This don't prove squat. It's just got a few dates on it. How is this evidence of anything?

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:20 PM
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21. No keep looking down
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 03:22 PM by seemslikeadream
8 pages
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:26 PM
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25. It Actually Supports AWOL Claims If I'm Reading It Correctly!!!
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 03:32 PM by Beetwasher
He didn't get paid from May to Sept. in 1972 and Feb. and March in '73!
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boneygrey Donating Member (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:41 PM
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40. Looking at the wrong records?
I could be mistaken, but aren't the records your looking at the ones released some time ago. The AP story says the new ones cover July-Sept. of '72. Hope I'm wrong. :shrug:
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:38 PM
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28. No, THIS piece of paper:
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REVOLT823 Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 08:47 PM
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43. The way I'm reading it is that he wasn't there for 5 months in 72 and
2 months in 73. When was he suspended from flying for not having a physical?
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:19 PM
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19. Well, that clears up everything. (NOT)
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:25 PM
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24. Can anyone decode those microfiche?
n/t
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:50 PM
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31. I know there are a lot of WELL INFORMED people here. Could somebody
decipher the whole thing and summarize what is and IS NOT THERE? I saw the posts about not getting paid; but there are some very dark microfiche? thingies that I cannot decipher.
THANKS A LOT to whomever can do this.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:19 PM
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17. OK, we all figured they'd find an old mimeograph machine, didn't we?
And if he WAS paid, what the hell was he paid FOR, since he still WASN'T THERE at the base he was supposed to be at.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:19 PM
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18. Are you sure it came on CNN and not on Fox , Rush, or O'Reilly?
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 03:25 PM by tandot
Or did you get it from freerepublic.com?

You wouldn't by any chance have a link for your claim?


On edit: Pay records mean squat. It means that those idiots continued paying him although he never showed up.
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Cicero Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:45 PM
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30. Why would Bush want to keep records...
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 03:45 PM by Cicero
...of how often he drinks TANG?

Maybe he likes the commercials with the orangutan. Or maybe it really tastes good mixed with vodka.

Oh well.

:crazy:

Later,

On edit: typo fixed
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:52 PM
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32. Look, this one alone completely exonerates Bush.


He's clean.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:54 PM
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34. WOW-You can't argue with the note from Mom*
*except when it really isn't from Mom because Mom isn't dumb enough to be an accomplice to an act of treason.
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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:54 PM
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33. LINK WITH STORY
Get the Raw Story -- sans Drudge:

http://www.rawstory.com
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:59 PM
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36. THANKS. Especially without Drudge... OK, now what? n/t
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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:13 PM
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38. Now it's up to the AP
To ferret out more of the story -- you can look at the records yourselves at the link but they just seem like a bunch of dates. The question is: how long did bush need to serve to claim service, and did he meet his requirement? MY short guess is that he did, otherwise those records would not have resurfaced... But queer that they should surface on a Friday afternoon, eh?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 05:29 PM
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41. I don't know how much we can trust the AP...
Pentagon Finds Bush's Guard Records

By MATT KELLEY, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The Pentagon (news - web sites) on Friday released newly discovered payroll records from President Bush (news - web sites)'s 1972 service in the Alabama National Guard, though the records shed no new light on the future president's activities during that summer.

Don't worry, I've made a screen capture.

:headbang:
rocknation



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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:15 PM
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39. Paid but didn't work? Like now? Like Arbusto? Like the Baseball team?
I believe it.

Lucky guy...
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 05:35 PM
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42. Wouldn't there be a record of his cashed his paychecks?
:headbang:
rocknation
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 08:56 PM
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44. 'They have been found...' Did they forget to add in
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 08:56 PM by HypnoToad
'...to be forgeries'? O8)
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