WTF is wrong with Ohio?

[RummyTheDummy]

I was looking at www.electoral-vote.com and apparently there's a new poll in Ohio with * up by 5.

Why aren't the people there getting with the program? It looks like Kerry has finally broken through in Penn., but Ohio has been a hard nut to crack.

I don't get it, especially with all the economic set backs in that part of the country.

[bigwillq]

1. Polls, Polls, Polls

I just saw one poll on CNN with Kerry up by 2 or 3 points in Ohio. I think they all vary depending on who conducts the poll.

I think Kerry will take Ohio.

[LiberalEsto]

2. Ohio

I think you put your finger on it.
The state is full of hard nuts.

[Connie_Corleone]

3. Southern part of Ohio

The southern part of Ohio is very conservative. That could be where the bump for Bush is coming from. It's like living in the South down here.

[theHandpuppet]

15. Actually....

It was southwestern and northwestern Ohio which carried the GOP by large margins in 2000. IOW, dividing the state west-to-east rather than north-south is more accurate in gauging the voting pattern. Northeastern Ohio and Appalachian Ohio (SE) were more likely to lean Dem.

[grytpype]

4. It's a Strategic Vision poll, which is a Repug outfit.

ARG poll for Ohio has Kerry still in the lead:

ARG
http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/

Jul 22 Jun 23 May 12
Bush 45 (43) (42)

Kerry 47 (49) (49)

Nader 3 (2) (2)

Undecided 5 (6) (7)

600 likely voters, July 20-22, MOE ± 4 percentage points

[tom_paine]

5. In other words, a Phony Freeped Poll designed to fill in the backstory

so when they steal the election, they can point to their Phony Polls as "proof".

They have been using this stratagem since 2000 and probably before. The fact that it is so forcefully and fully used (THIS IS ONE OF MANY INSTANCES HERE) it indicates to me that the Busheviks will steal the election again.

[CaTeacher]

8. I have an aunt who lives in Cleveland,

and I love her very much--but she is FRUSTRATING. She is not a Bush-bot---but she is swayed by the latest thing that she hears--so she goes back and forth in her opinions. (she truly is a "swing voter").

She voted for Gore last time, Clinton before that, Perot before that, and Bush 1---Reagan.

But--it is very hard to know what she will do. All I can do is keep after her until the election.

[Blue-Jay]

6. Don't believe it. Ohio will deliver for Kerry.

I guarantee it.

[Hoping4Change]

7. Have you read Tom Frank's "What's the Matter with Kansas?"

His commentary about the grip Repukes have on Kansas apply to Ohio as well. It's a great read.

[lancdem]

9. This is another site with electoral votes

which doesn't fluctutate as much because anything within the MOE stays green.

http://www.dcpoliticalreport.com

[Bucky]

10. "Oh shit! Terrorists under my bed! Quick, somebody vote for Bush!!"

Ah, I feel so safe nowwwww.... Welp, back to watchin American Idol

[Bush was AWOL]

11. Ohio will go to Kerry

I live in Ohio and I know a lot of people that voted for Bush last time who won't be voting for him again. I'm working on more and more everyday.

[realisticphish]

13. yeah

I live in east central ohio, DEEEP into repuke territory, but ive been seeing a lot of kerry stuff; i also have yet to see a SINGLE * commerical on tv; granted, i only watch 10 (and fox for simpsons) but both of those have only shown kerry ads, from what ive seen


:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat

[Bush was AWOL]

14. I live in Columbus on the Grandview/Upper Arlington border

and Upper Arlington might be the wealthiest area in the state and I am completely blown away by the anti-Bush stuff and pro Kerry stuff I see. I'd say Kerry signs and anti-Bush signs outnumber Bush/Cheney signs 10/1, at the very least. I'm seriously shocked at some of the shit I see in yards of houses that cost atleast 300K. You'd think they like their tax cuts.

[Octafish]

17. They love their country more than their checkbooks.

Great news! And your neighbors sound patriotic. Maybe they also remember what Oliver Wendell Holmes said:

"Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society."

[realisticphish]

18. i live about 20 minutes southeast

of pataskala, and, since i drive around all day for my job, i see everything from UA to south zanesville, and i see almost uniformly anti-bush or pro-kerry signs; on a side-note, i drove past the zanesville repuke office, and it looks like a fucking dungeon, gargoyles and everything

edit: spelling

:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat

[yardwork]

19. My sister lives a little north of there, deep in rural Ohio

and she tells me that there is growing anger toward Bush. She says that a lot of people who never bothered to vote before are registering and planning to vote against Bush. One reason - they saw F9/11 and they are really mad about Bush's connection with Saudi Arabia.

Unfortunately, she said that there is also incredible bigotry toward anyone perceived to be middle eastern, arab, or muslim. No distinctions are made about a person's religion, country of origin, citizenship, etc. Anyone who looks middle eastern is hated there, she says.

That's very sad, and also worrisome for the future.

[Joanne98]

12. It's the preachers

Their telling their flock to vote Bush.

[ThomWV]

16. Was That Of Likely Voters? How About Last Week's Purge?

According to Thom Hartmann there was a purge of voters in a county that I think is to the west of Cincinnatti that removed 110,000 voters. The area is 20-something percent black, who were expected to vote 90% Democratic. So they come off the possible voter list and Bush's numbers go up even if not a single soul left in the survey changed their mind.

How's that for an answer?

[stableRadical]

20. I just talked with some Ohio Dems

Their gripe is the restrictions on guns and off-road vehicles promoted by Dems. How many here support guns and off-roaders? Very few I suspect.

[SeanOhio]

21. Ohio Is Okay

The job problem here--and Taft's unpopularity--will help John Kerry. All they need to do is link Taft with Bush (or vice versa) and send John Edwards through Southeast Ohio. A "small town" tour through southern Ohio would be great--we're from there--because when you take time to visit the suffering areas that are never visited, the people there will remember it. And they'll help you out.

[neverborn]

26. I support guns.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

27. Um..I don't think those are the concerns of the unemployed

besides, the Patriot Act-which was written and pushed through by the Repukes-will put real restrictions on gun ownership.

[59millionmorons]

22. Just released ARG poll from Ohio Kerry leads 47-45

http://americanresearchgroup.com/ohg/

July 23, 2004
Kerry and Bush Tied Among Likely Voters in Ohio

John Kerry and George W. Bush are tied among likely voters in Ohio according to a survey by the American Research Group. A total of 47% of likely voters say they would vote for Kerry if the presidential election were being held today and 45% say they would vote for Bush. A total of 3% of likely voters say they would vote for Ralph Nader and 5% of likely voters are undecided

[59millionmorons]

23. Who the heck is Strategic Vision ?

I think I will pass on this two bit outfit.

[59millionmorons]

24. strategic visions site has FOX news pictures all over it.

http://www.strategicvision.biz/home.html

[RebelYell]

25. I'm from Ohio

You would think, will all the criminal activity of this administration that the polls aren't Kerry 100%, Bush 0%. Ohio is in dire straights regarding jobs.

[The Blue Knight]

28. I live in Marion County.

We've never gone Democratic in a presidential election EVER.

I don't think Kerry has much of a chance here, but I think Taft's unpopularity will be the dagger to Bush's heart.

I agree about the Edwards tour...that'd be an excellent idea.