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pathansen Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 08:44 AM
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Doesn't Bush's released military records prove cocaine bust?
I thought I read somewhere in DU (Friday night?) that Bush's newly released payroll records revealed an address where James Hatfield (in his controversial book "Fortunate Son") claimed that Bush served community service time for cocaine possession in 1972.
So, instead of being in Alabama all this time, maybe he was in fact in Houston (close to Alabama St).
Does anyone else know about this?
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 08:57 AM
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1. Doesn't *prove* the cocaine bust but the time fits
Bush has said he was in Houston in 1972 at Project Pull
http://usembassy.state.gov/seoul/wwwhe906.html
What isn't said, except in Fortunate Son, is that he was doing community service for a cocaine bust.

It's interesting, though, in this document from website awolbush.com that he, at some point, has glossed over the Alabama service, by not mentioning it.
Seems like he wouldn't do this if there wasn't something to hide about it.

What his payroll record does is corroborate, a second time, that he was not doing service in Alabama. It might not, as the AP article said, show something *new* but it doesn't have to. It adds a second proof to the *old* charge that his service there didn't exist.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 09:02 AM
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2. Here is some information and a link
By Salon Staff

"Oct. 18, 1999 | A new book by Texas author J.H. Hatfield claims that George W. Bush was arrested for cocaine possession in 1972, but had his record expunged with help from his family's political connections. In an afterword to his book "Fortunate Son: George W. Bush and the Making of an American President" (St. Martin's), Hatfield says he took a second look at the Bush cocaine allegations after a story in Salon reporting allegations that Bush did community service for the crime at the Martin Luther King Jr. Community Center in Houston's Third Ward.

The center's executive director, Madgelean Bush (no relation to George W. Bush), had told Salon News and others that Bush did not do community service there, and the Bush campaign likewise denied the allegation. But the Texas governor had admitted to working at Houston's Project P.U.L.L. in 1972, and Hatfield says he began to wonder if that was actually the community service sentence. Hatfield says he confirmed those suspicions with three sources close to the Bush family he had cultivated while writing his biography, which publishes Wednesday."

more....please read the links inside the article.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/10/18/cocaine/
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 09:17 AM
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3. The whole project p.u.l.l. episode is suspicious
For him to have participated in something like Project Pull is very out of character for Bush. Nothing previous in his history indicates a desire for community service - nor does anything post.

Most telling - he spent the time "helping out", yet it is never mentioned, he never uses it as a point of reference, lessons learned, etc. What politician, particularly one such as Bush* wouldn't use the situation in some manner? The life experience is surely worth a campaign trail story or two.

You highlight community service when done charitably. You hide "community service" when done as punishment. This is being hidden. You be the judge.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 09:19 AM
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4. project p.u.l.l. my finger!
n/t
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 09:37 AM
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5. Proj.PULL recipients surely recall bush or no bush
someone in houston, ramble down to the PULL area, and ask the locals for anyone who was a recipient in '72.

then simply ask if the recipient remembers the staff, such as {show photo} young bush.

That ought to settle the confusion.

Would old DNA from the furniture or bathrooms at the PULL rooms, show a match with bush?
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 09:44 AM
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6. he never mentions PULL to add ethnic votes ?
If PULL served latinos or blacks, why hasnt bush mentioned his time helping those ethnics, when bush speaks to such groups today?

Lunabush is right... b. is hiding something.

Lunabush, who is the photo in your post?

Would PULL's old office records show names of all staff?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 09:46 AM
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8. Check 'em out
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 10:18 AM
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9. He did, at least once.
At least according to tis transcript:

http://www.gwu.edu/~action/repconv/bushvideo.html

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 09:45 AM
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7. I find it very interesting that he did community service
with this organization. Not unless the judge of the court that ex plunged the cocaine arrest record, ordered junior to community service at PULL. Because daddy told judge that junior was going to Harvard and was getting an early out from the Air Force.

http://www.projectpull.org/projpull.html
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supercrash Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 10:51 AM
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11. Ya right.
The courts made his cocaine charges go away, yet they left a trail by ordering him to Pro. Pull.

Sounds crazy.
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pathansen Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 10:44 AM
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10. Yes, why would Bush do community service same time as military service?
Why suddenly he come back to Houston from Alabama just to do volunteer community service? Why risk being AWOL? Why would he intentionally decide to help the needy?
This is so out of character and does not make sense.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 10:55 AM
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12. Really
Why are they so secretive about PULL. If he was just "helping out" you'd think they'd use it in their "compassionate conservative" campaign.
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CaTeacher Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 10:58 AM
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13. we need to write letters and get the media to
investigate (and publicize) this!!!
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