Natl Guard Service-CAN YOU EVEN DO THAT?????

[liveoaktx]

Especially after watching all the Guard people pressed into service for Iraq and then stop-lossed to prevent them from returning home after their legitimate tour of duty, it seems egregious that Bush would be able to just not show up for roughly 6 months of service.

So, can one do that in the guard? Can you just not show up for 6 months if you are part-time (as he seems to be claiming for the Alabama service-but really, aren't ALL guard people part-time?). If someone right now were to just not report in until, oh, say, 3 months later when they were doing a transfer, would they be AWOL? Or would they be a deserter? Or would it be okay?

[prole_for_peace]

1. apparently * is the only one that can do that..

anybody else attempting that trick would be in for a whole big bunch of trouble.
You have to remember * is special. or so he thinks.

[bahrbearian]

2. During a time when the Draft was in use. NO

[Mr_Spock]

3. This DRUNKEN COKE HEAD has got to GO NOW!! He lies constanly

This isn't funny any more - he HAS to resign IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!!!

We want our govenment back from neocons and liars - give it back NOW.

[Catch22Dem]

4. Full time guard

There are members of the National/Air National Guard who are full time. It's like being Active Duty military.

[liveoaktx]

5. Okay, but he says he was part time then (in explanation of

how he could be working on that guy's election-really doing community service in Houston for a drug conviction).

What I wonder is, aren't National Guard people up in arms about this? They must know if they were to do the same thing, they'd have some kind of penalty against them.

[Catch22Dem]

6. No, I knew what you were getting at

I was just throwing that out there since you had asked.

[luaneryder]

7. Well, I was in the KyARNG (part time)

1979-1981 and we had at least one person who didn't show up for six months. All they ever did was call her name at roll call and ask if anyone had seen her. NG is very political and with the right connections you can get by with most anything. * had the right connections.

[liveoaktx]

8. But for you- what would have happened to YOU (presumably w/o

the right connections) had you done that? Was there some listed policy with repercussions if you didn't show up? Would someone show up at your house with unmuzzled guard dogs and a hood?

[luaneryder]

9. I didn't have any connections at all.

Can't say what they would have done to me personally. But, then I would have never gone AWOL either.

[Marvelous_Smarty]

10. Not only that but ,

having some of your troops not show up looks bad on the commanders record so sometimes it is overlooked.

Also, Bush can be called AWOL (but he was never listed as such) but not a deserter since his unit was not called up.

If a unit is mobilized, then YOU HAVE TO GO! There is none of this, "I don't think I'll show up today." You can miss all the drills you want, but don't miss a muster call.

[p.lukasiak]

11. desertion is not defined by active duty status

it is defined simply by not being where you are when you are supposed to be there, and no intent to show up again.

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/mcm/bl85.htm?once=true&

In practical terms, "desertion" within the National Guard and Reserve units is defined as a failure to obey an order to active duty (for training, or otherwise). (the penalty for failing to show up for inactive duty training was a call to active duty...if you didn't show up for that, you were in deep doo-doo...)

(PLUG--read my new article on Bush's Military Records--
FRAUD--The Secrets of Bush’s Payroll Records Revealed
www.glcq.com/fraud.htm ]

[Straight Shooter]

12. Welcome to DU

:hi: