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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 07:08 PM
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Truthout Convention Coverage begins: Iraq Veterans Against the War
http://www.truthout.org/dnc04.shtml

Saturday 24 July 2004
7:25PM

When I got to the Vets for Peace convention, there was a barrel-chested man absolutely collapsing with laughter in the lobby outside the speaking hall. "You won't believe it!" he shouted to a friend by the door. "I got promoted! I got a letter in the mail! I'm a corporal now!"

I didn't get the joke at the time, but that was because I had not yet been properly introduced to Michael Hoffman, the barrel-chested newly-minted corporal, who is a veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom and now the founder of Iraq Veterans Against the War (www.ivaw.net). I was able to speak with Mr. Hoffman later in the afternoon. I

PITT: First off, what is your name?

HOFFMAN: My name is Michael Hoffman.

PITT: You were involved in the most recent invasion of Iraq?

HOFFMAN: Yes. I crossed into Iraq in March 2003, when the invasion began, and left Iraq at the beginning of May.

PITT: What branch of the service were you in?

HOFFMAN: I served with the United States Marines, in the 1st Marine Division. I was part of an artillery battery.

PITT: And now you're a corporal.

HOFFMAN: (laughing) Yes. Surprise, surprise.

PITT: Tell me why you are here at the Veterans for Peace convention in Boston?

HOFFMAN: I'm here representing the Iraq war veterans. Myself and five other Iraq war veterans are here to represent to people what the war was about, to tell the truth about what was going on over there.

PITT: What is the truth, from your experience?

HOFFMAN: The truth, from my experience, is that the war was based on lies.

PITT: Did you know that when you were over there?

HOFFMAN: I did. I looked at the reasons for the war, I looked at the proof, and what was coming out in the press, and by that time I had educated myself about what was going on in the world. I didn't just look at the U.S. press, I looked at the international press, and I looked at the independent media. I felt the reasons for war weren't there.

PITT: Was it tough for you to go, knowing what you knew?

HOFFMAN: It was. It was really tough. And it wasn't just me. My own battery first sergeant - someone with 20 years experience in the Marine Corps - knew what this meant. He'd been in the first Gulf War also. Before we went to Iraq, he addressed all the enlisted men in the unit, about 100 of us. He said, "Don't think you're going to be heroes. You're not going over there because of weapons of mass destruction. You're not going there to get rid of Saddam Hussein, or to make Iraq safe for democracy. You're going there for one reason and one reason alone: Oil."

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 07:28 PM
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 07:35 PM
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2. Very interesting - Thank you. I am beginning to wonder how the military
Edited on Sat Jul-24-04 07:38 PM by mzmolly
will vote this time around? :shrug:

And lets guess what's Mr. Hoffman's way, shall we? This soldier is soon to be labeled "unpatriotic" among other disgusting things ...

BTW, I sent him a thankyou.

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 07:56 PM
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3. kick
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 08:00 PM
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4. Ah, yes, Oil
The truth. Real men tell the truth, no matter how bad it hurts.

Good luck to you Corporal Hoffman, and thanks for telling the truth. The truth is something America needs.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 08:15 PM
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5. great start Will!
:toast: thanks for the heads up
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 08:42 PM
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6. sort of blows away the stereotype
of military people being "uninformed". I'm impressed that he searched the international press in order to educate himself on the situation before the invasion took place.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 02:05 AM
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 02:39 AM
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8. ZombyKick
Great stuff.
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:30 AM
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9. Really good, Will.
I read the whole thing. Very interesting.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:52 AM
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10. Thanks, Will, for that great coverage
I'm glad you're there and look forward to reading all about it.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 11:04 AM
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 03:04 AM
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 03:14 AM
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13. "get our troops out of Iraq."
Edited on Mon Jul-26-04 03:15 AM by IndianaGreen
That is the exact reason I am here now, because the only way to make sure these guys come home alive, to make any good out of what has happened, is to get our troops out of Iraq. They're not doing a bit of good over there. They're causing the problem, not solving it.


I hate to tell Cpl Michael Hoffman that the Democrats are not going to get the troops out of Iraq. The 2004 platform, the DLC, the apparatchiks, and the entire Democratic establishment have endorsed the "stay the course" and the "we broke it, we fix it" mantra that will ensure that Bush's war becomes Kerry's war.

Our pursuit of the PNAC-like PPI agenda is more important than the lives of our troops and the lives and wishes of the Iraqi people. In case you haven't heard, the Iraqi people don't want us there either!
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JSJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 03:17 AM
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14. fleas-dogs, cake-eating it too, made bed-now sleep n/t
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 03:21 AM
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15. Might want to avoid having two 'barrel-chested's so close together
:hi:

Neat piece!
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