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Sun Jul-25-04 09:56 PM
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F911 Question -- An Oregon family has charged |
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Edited on Sun Jul-25-04 10:04 PM by kaitykaity
that MMoore used an image of their dead Colonel's funeral without their permission.
Has Moore debunked this anywhere? All I can find on Google is the spurious charge made, I couldn't find anything in MMoore's War Room on his web site, and nothing came up in a DU archive search.
Thanks in advance.
edit to fix typos :grr:
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Sun Jul-25-04 09:59 PM
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1. Do they have the copyright to this footage? |
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Is there a law requiring their permission before the footage is used?
If not then this may be a breach of etiquette, but not a violation of law.
M. Moore may be rude and uncouth, but not a criminal.
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Sun Jul-25-04 10:03 PM
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2. And guess what?..Michael Moore is |
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Not "rude and uncouth", either!
Only one of the greatest documentary makers ever born.
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Sun Jul-25-04 10:18 PM
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3. can't debunk--Moore did not get permissions |
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from them. From what I understand, he didn't have to do so--he is within his legal rights. They don't have a leg to stand on--and they need to quit belly-aching and trouble-making.
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DBoon
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Sun Jul-25-04 10:19 PM
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4. I don't think he is either |
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only that being "rude and uncouth" is the worst he could possibly be accused of here.
He can't be accused of falsifying his movie.
He can't be accused of having done something illegal.
So he has to be accused of a violation of etiquette.
Someone sick Miss Manners on him! This is serious! (NOT!)
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Mon Jul-26-04 04:42 AM
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It's a pic of a FUNERAL, MM is a shithead for doing such a thing. Would you want your son/daughter's funeral to be shown on O'Reilly glorifying his opinion somehow?
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Sun Jul-25-04 10:24 PM
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5. I think your post is "rude and uncouth", but you may not be that way... |
DBoon
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Sun Jul-25-04 10:55 PM
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Edited on Sun Jul-25-04 10:58 PM by DBoon
I may be rude and uncouth, but you certainly have no sense for sarcasm, nor any sense of humor.
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Sun Jul-25-04 10:33 PM
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6. Well, finally a funeral gets some attention |
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And they bitch about it? They should be honored that the entire world will acknowledge their loss.
Requesting permission would have been nice. But how many hoops does Moore need to jump through before everyone is satisfied?
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Sun Jul-25-04 11:46 PM
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8. what people don't realize about movie distribution: |
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There's this thing called E&O insurance. It stands for "errors and omissions". It's very expensive and very involved.
Nobody will distribute a movie without a solid E&O policy.
The E&O people pore over the script (for a dramatic film) and the movie, in a case like this, and EVERY TINY LITTLE THING you wouldn't even think of gets thoroughly vetted.
Without the E&O the film does not get distributed. It's as simple as that.
So the odds that the E&O people missed this one are pretty small. Possible, but small.
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Sun Jul-25-04 11:57 PM
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Edited on Sun Jul-25-04 11:59 PM by kaitykaity
The person who asked says it still doesn't answer her question, so I guess she's going to have to ask somebody else to help because I've done all I can.
Thanks.
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Mon Jul-26-04 12:03 AM
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10. What if he did use it without permission? Does it matter? |
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Unless they copyrighted the footage, I can't see how it does.
What is the name of the funeralee? This may be another instance of an urban legend designed to discredit the filmmaker.
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Mon Jul-26-04 12:08 AM
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It is fucking stupid.
Consider it officially debunked.
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kaitykaity
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Mon Jul-26-04 03:08 AM
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13. Oh gee you're so HelpFul!! |
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NOT!!!!!!!
Gawd, I fucking hate it when people waste my time.
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Mon Jul-26-04 12:43 AM
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12. Military funerals are public, no? |
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we pay for them. public domain?
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Mon Jul-26-04 04:38 AM
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14. The family doesn't have much say in the matter |
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Whoever took the video owns the copyright.
The family probably did have control over who they allowed in to the funeral. If they had allowed the media in to film the funeral to begin with, then they have no right to complain about it now.
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Mon Jul-26-04 06:24 AM
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16. What are the details of the story? |
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Is there an actual link to the Oregon family's complaint?
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Mon Jul-26-04 11:50 AM
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17. I said in OP I could only find conservowacks making the charge. |
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