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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 05:57 AM
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Why Are Republican Heroes, Heroes, but Ours Are Not?
Edited on Mon Jul-26-04 06:01 AM by louis c
George Bush(the father), Bob Dole, and John McCain are true War heroes who sacrificed for our country in time of war. No Democrat that I know ever questioned their bravery, courage, or patriotism. Even if we disagreed with any one of their political positions, there was always respect for their accomplishments and valor when their country needed them.

I have never read a column or article that impugned any of their Military achievements. They, as well as any American, regardless of the war in which they fought, deserve the utmost of respect and honor from an appreciative citizenry.

Yet, war heroes who happen to be Democrats, such as George McGovern, Max Cleland, and John Kerry, whose bravery, courage, and patriotism are at least equal to the three Republican Veterans, are reviled questioned. This goes far above just disagreeing with them politically. They question medals, wounds, and accomplishments that occurred while these men sacrificed for their country, and risked their lives. In McGovern's case in 1972, Vice-President Agnew questioned McGovern's bravery even though the Senator flew over forty missions, through hostile fire over Berlin, during the hight of WWII.

On Thursday evening, we will see two brave men who were heroic in a time of conflict. Both men have had to endure humiliating and disgraceful conduct by Repuke front groups or disgusting Conservative columnists. Below, I have provided a link for a four month old column from one of the worst pieces of shit to ever write for a public forum in the history of America.

This column is especially mean spirited, not only against Max Cleland, but toward the many brave men and women who gave their lives on 9/11. In this column, Ann Coulter reticules Union Workers during a hypothetical, future terrorist attack, implying that they would not act in time to prevent disaster. She must conveniently forget all those fallen heroes on that tragic day that gave their lives. Police, Fire Fighters, EMTs, Port Authority Personal, Pilots, and Flight Attendants were all Union people. Again, our heroes are not really heroes to the Repukes and their shrill army of propagandists, because we don't fit their agenda.

Where is the outrage from the other side at remarks such as the ones that are stated in this article? Where is the condemnation of these unpatriotic and disgusting remarks which are made in print?

If you have never read this article, I believe it is a must read for all DUers. If you have already read it, it is worth reading again just to remind us of the evil nature of the opposition.

On Thursday evening, when Max Cleland introduces John Kerry, I wish every American could be aware of the vindictive nature of those individuals on the other side, and draw the contrast.

Here's the link. Warning: could cause nausea or vomiting.

http://www.anncoulter.org/columns/2004/021104e.htm

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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 06:25 AM
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1. Ideological bias...
we are their true enemy in their eyes, they do not give one iota of consideration about our humanity. Plain and simple.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 07:19 AM
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2. Actually, George Bush I's heroism has been questioned.
They say that he abandoned his plane too early which may have proved fatal to at least one crewman.
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 08:26 AM
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4. I've never heard that
from any public official, pundit, or organization.

Link, please.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 09:05 AM
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7. No one in the "foreground" has repeated it
It comes from a claim by one of his fellow pilots on the day he was shot down, repeated in an "unauthorized biography".

http://www.awolbush.com/ghwb.html
http://www.padrak.com/alt/BUSHBOOK_2.html
http://www.usvetdsp.com/story46.htm

The first page above has a comment from another Avenger gunner and an excerpt from the bio; the second has the relevant chaper of the bio itself.

The third is a rant on this subject by a self-proclaimed veterans/POW-MIA activist, who is currently anti-Kerry. There are probably more sites, with pretty much the same info.

Basically, under normal circumstances this would not be enough for anyone to really make definitive accusations against Bush, but it needs to be pointed out if for no other reason than because it's more substantial than most of the crap they attack Democratic veterans over.
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 10:05 AM
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9. The Point I Was Making
None of us, no elected Democrat, and no Liberal columnist ever said such a thing.

If they had, I would denounce it. I think that those who serve should be treated with respect for the risks they took and the sacrifices they made. Not every decision in a war zone will be correct, but to be criticized after making that sacrifice and taking that risk, is appalling to me. IMHO

There are just some things that are "off limits" as far as I'm concerned.

But I guess assholes like Coulter don't agree.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 08:13 AM
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3. God, She's a Shitty Writer
This bitch went to law school? Content is one thing -- but after turning out a couple of books, you'd think someone had checked to see if she could actually write.

The content is just dumb -- the writing is what makes me want to puke.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 08:47 AM
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5. They Are Pig Fucking Shit Squeezing Wart Eating Hypocrites.
(I *am* being nice... so stop saying that.)
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 08:53 AM
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6. You Must Have Read The Link........................
because that's just how I felt when I read it.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 09:16 AM
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8. Another of the "Big Lies"
Look at the current crop of GOOPies and show me a genuine "war hero". Show me a purple heart or silver star among the top echelon of this regime. Then let's walk over to Congress and do the same and then to the Senate. Wanna bet if you checked records as many Democrats currently in the Federal government have served in the military as Repugnicans, if not more.

The perception of the GOOP being the "patriotic" party is one of the oldest...going back to the America Firsters before WWII...and really took root with Ike choosing the GOOP in '52. At first it was xenophobia...then with Nixon's Southern strategy it embraced the southern racists and John Birchers who meshed Jesus into this mix and then came the chickenhawks who just distorted and perverted the whole thing.

For years it was the GOOP being the conduits for the large military contractors that also make them "more patriotic" as in the cold war military strength was based on how much we spent on nukes and other expensive war toys...all glammed onto by the Repugnicans without question. This ran into the military, where the GOOP's winks and nods at racism and sexism led to the "Abu Grahb" culture that has taken root.

I think, thanks to the actions of this regime...from the invasion to the cuts in benefits, extended stays and now recalls, there's a growing hate for the Repugnicans within the military. No, it's not coming our way...and I doubt it will...Democrats do stand for a smaller military and a diplomatic, rather than gunboat answer to international problems...thus we threaten their existence, but I see many going Liberatarian or just avoiding politics altogether.

In 2000, Bunnypants was able to steal critical votes in Florida through phantom military votes...you don't hear anything about that, nor are you hearing how the military is supporting Bunnypants anywhere near what you did 4 years ago. At least this is a good thing...but it took 1,000 of their dead to start them to think...how many more will it take for there to be an investigation into this regime's war crimes?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 10:12 AM
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10. The reason is the Mighty Propoaganda Edifice of Goebbels v2.0
It has remade the English language, Orwell style, and rewritten history in a similar fashion.

It operated for 20 years without opposition, even now it continues mostly unopposed.

Now it is so powerful it might be able to still be stopped, but it is VERY possible that it is now up to "1937" in relation to the similar (but without as good production values) Goebbels v1.0.

And such things CANNOT be stopped without (REDACTED).
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