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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 01:56 PM
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A CNNI mouthpiece at the dem convention shocked the hell out of me today
Edited on Mon Jul-26-04 02:23 PM by lebkuchen
Jim Clancy told his female mouthpiece (short, brown hair, never saw her before, don't know her name) that Europe and Asia were very much concerned about another Bush term. How does that weigh with US voters?

The woman said that America didn't care what the rest of the world thought. It was going to do whatever it thought necessary to protect itself.

I just returned from Normandy, a region that was annihilated during WWII and is currently festooned with US, Canadian, and British flags, to include period photographs placed all over Normandy market squares and storefront windows to remember and commemorate the 60th anniversary of D-Day. How truly frightening that a US media source would parade such an audaciously aggressive and ignorant remark before an international audience w/WWII with millions of deaths--to include over 300,000 US deaths--fresh in their minds.

Today the EU is struggling to rebuild Europe from that catastrophe despite the currrent high Euro and gasoline rates (70 euro to fill an 80 liter diesel--cheaper than regular--tank, which converts to $85 for a 20 gallon tank) while the US media dares to undermine that peaceful unification with a cavalier "we don't care what you think" simpering attitude.

The less than 3000 9-11 deaths nowhere equates to the travesty of WWII. The US had better damn well start caring about its place in the world's grand scheme should its true time of need ever arrive.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:00 PM
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1. The US is GONE. Imperial Amerika remains and it a a Rogue Totalitarian
Nation who's attitudes are consistent with other, more direct Totalitarian Nations before it.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:04 PM
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2. That was obvious when I saw the early 1940s poster at Omaha Beach
Edited on Mon Jul-26-04 02:05 PM by lebkuchen
Museum.

It was of a German soldier holding up his child, with his wife lovingly by his side, attempting to convince the occupied French that the Germans were "family values."

A sign nearby told of how the Germans had violated the Geneva Conventions by sending thousands of the surrendered French to concentration camps.

Sound familiar?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:12 PM
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3. Sound familiar?
It sure does. Our hope is that we have enough of a Democracy left to elect the Bushzis out of office. I hope our new government has the balls to bring these traitors to justice. I don't want Bush just to walk into the sunset without being put on trial and sentenced for his crimes. I'm afraid though that this is a long shot.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:18 PM
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5. Like the Nazis, the Bushies control the media
Take one Kerry comment, amplify it to an ear-splitting decibel and air it ad infinitum as was done to Dean, and the election is Bush's.

Won't take much.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:22 PM
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7. We must continue to expose the media
They are letting their bias show freely now and that hurts their credibility. Propaganda is far less effective when people see it as propaganda and not as "the most trusted name in news."
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:27 PM
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8. It's going to take a bombardment of letter writing to local papers
to counteract the Bushies' fuselage of propaganda. Family members are going to have to get involved. The fascist chokehold on the US is near complete. Now is not the time to play coy.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 04:08 PM
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16. AMEN .
Don't complain. ACT!


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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:17 PM
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4. The U.S. doesn't care what the rest of the world thinks?
Edited on Mon Jul-26-04 02:19 PM by in_cog_ni_to
Wanna bet! She's not speaking for me! She's not speaking for anyone on DU! She's not speaking for every frickin' Democrat in the U.S. She SHOULD have said...The republicans don't care what the rest of the world thinks. That crap pisses me off! Those people DO NOT represent ME! :grr:
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:21 PM
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6. Clearly, the Bushies are trying to undermine the EU
because the Bushies live and breathe war. Peace is an anathema to the Bushies.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:33 PM
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9. You may not like her analysis, but
she is pretty dead-on regarding the American electorate. They don't want the world telling them what to do or who to vote for.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:45 PM
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11. When has the whole world ever told the US what to do?
Edited on Mon Jul-26-04 02:48 PM by lebkuchen
Bush can't cross his own border without inviting a conflagration of burning American flags due to the fact that he has all the charm of a Mafia hitman.

America had better take the "bad breath" hint, or condemn itself to a generation of world isolation, which, in fact, has already begun. There's nothing like a "leadership" of irrational tasteless US behavior to galvanize an otherwise argumentative group of EU members struggling to regain momentum.

If Bush slithers into the WH again, all bets are off on America. The US will, in fact, become a driftless out-of-commission satellite in the world's eyes.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:35 PM
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10. I really don't think they represent most Americans
Everyone I know is deeply disturbed and saddened by the way the right has driven a wedge between our country and our allies in Europe. We all agree that the way Bush and his followers treat our traditional allies is one of the worst and scariest things about him and embarrassing on top of that. George Bush and his followers don't speak for me or most of my friends and family. And I don't think I'm speaking for myself when I say I am more than a little eager to restore our relationships around the world. We're going to need new leadership to do this.
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CaTeacher Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:59 PM
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12. If we don't care--(like now)
then we just act like a rogue nation. And we are worst than Iraq when we run amuck--because we can cause troubles all over the world.

It is no wonder that everyone hates us so much.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 03:36 PM
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14. The world despises Bush, not America
I wish I could post all my Normandy photos filled with US/Canadian/Britain flags, which line the streets of every Norman town.

Sainte Mere Eglise was the first French town to be liberated, by the 82nd and 101st Airborne. One of the parachutists, John Steele, had hooked his parachute on the town's church roof, where he played dead for two hours before the Germans captured him (he lived to make three more combat jumps and survived the war to return to France during commemorations). The town continues to hang a parachute and a "parachutist" from its church tower to remember John Steele and 6 June 44.



Even the town's church stain-glass windows recall...





How dare AWOL Bush and his Moonie friends say the French have forgotten.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 03:12 PM
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13. The only mention of Bush in any of the D-Day museums was at Utah Beach*
Edited on Mon Jul-26-04 03:39 PM by lebkuchen
The originator of the Utah Beach Museum was a Frenchman who had been accidentally wounded by US forces during the landing. He quietly went to England for medical treatment, not wishing to draw negative attention to US liberators responsible for his wounds, he was so gratified to see an end to German occupation.

To thank the US, this man founded the Utah Beach Museum on very limited funds (he was a father of 6) to commemorate the sacrifice the US had made.

After the founder's death a few years ago, his son took over the Museum.

Then came the Bush administration and a NY Post article, demanding to know if France had forgotten America's WWII sacrifice since it did not wish to be a part of Bush's "coalition." This Post article had greatly saddened the founder's son since his entire family's life had been devoted to thanking the US. His remarks in response were poignant. If I can find the article after a search, I will post.

At any rate, today Normandy is inundated with allied and German cemeteries/ossuaries. Nearly all cities and villages had been reduced to rubble and rebuilt, with American GIs returning to Normandy many times for commemorations. Yet the Moonie Times had the audacity to question French appreciation.

I don't have words to express my contempt for the evil that has taken over the WH.

*However, Mr. and Mrs. Clinton are fondly remembered and Bill is shown in photographs frequently.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 03:58 PM
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15. A bumper sticker to clarify my view on this matter:
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