Ready4Change
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Mon Jul-26-04 04:03 PM
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Without Republicans, would Clinton have caught bin Laden? |
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I was thinking about the claim tht Clinton had 3 chances to get bin Laden but didn't. Like many others I've noted that he wanted to get bin Laden, but was thwarted by a cautious (and Republican) congress.
It occurred to me that Clinton faced not only an opposing Congress and Senate for 6 of his 8 years, but also was wrestling with the extended Whitewater investigation.
Had he not been so obstructed by Republicans in Congress and the Senate, would bin Laden be cooling his heals in a prison cell somewhere? Would 3,000 dead people in New York still be alive today?
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Mon Jul-26-04 04:06 PM
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Mon Jul-26-04 04:09 PM
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2. Most Likely! Everytime he went after him repukes shouted "wag the dog" |
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Mon Jul-26-04 04:14 PM
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3. Without question. Atleast, I'm convinced. |
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And, this leaves this for cogitation: If the Republicans had NOT attacked Clinton in the 90s, there wouldn't be any doubt in anyone's mind that bin Laden would have been Clinton's fault, assuming that bin Laden and 9/11 happened exactly as it did. But because the Republicans muddied the waters by attacking and distracting Clinton during the 90s - in order to follow their own political agenda - they will always leave a doubt in people's minds.
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Mon Jul-26-04 04:14 PM
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4. Without repubs...all Americans would have health care now too. |
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Mon Jul-26-04 04:17 PM
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5. Absolutely. 9-11 would never have happened |
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Mon Jul-26-04 04:17 PM
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6. THEN AND NOW, HOW SOON THEY FORGET |
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Rice derides Clinton's retaliatory launching of 75 cruise missiles at suspected al-Qaida sites in Afghanistan and Sudan, saying that Bush wanted a more robust response to al-Qaida than "lobbing a few cruise missiles."
But at the time, a number of Republican senators and congressmen sharply criticized Clinton - not for reacting too weakly, but for overreacting to deflect attention from the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
Remember Wag the Dog ?
1998 From the moment Clinton went on live television Thursday to announce the bombings in Afghanistan and Sudan, "Wag the Dog's" producer-director Barry Levinson and producer Jane Rosenthal were inundated with requests for comment
1998 Jim Gibbons "Look at the movie 'Wag the Dog.' I think this has all the elements of that movie," Rep. Jim Gibbons said. "Our reaction to the embassy bombings should be based on sound credible evidence, not a knee-jerk reaction to try to direct public attention away from his personal problems."
Gibbons, Now a war hawk, Must have had second thoughts, Humm. :dem:
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Mon Jul-26-04 04:24 PM
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7. OK, how do we clearly articulate this next time someone "Blames Clinton?" |
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The mode of right wing attack is to have lots of attack points which seem valid when viewed shallowly, and to keep switching to different attack points so nothing can be explored in depth.
Any good debaters have an effective technique here?
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