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Mon Jul-26-04 10:01 PM
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;-) always making me think! what is the single biggest reason I should vote Kerry?
(if you don't know me, I am not here to be rude)
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:02 PM
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1. The last 4 years of George Bush (nt) |
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:02 PM
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:02 PM
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3. because america needs him and people like him |
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people who dedicate their entire lives to serving america and its people.
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:02 PM
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4. Aren't you watching the convention? |
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You would have heard a thousand and one reasons why Kerry is better than Bush.
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:03 PM
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5. Because Strength and Wisdom are NOT |
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opposing values!
When Bush avoided Vietnam in the Texas National Guard and Dick Cheney avoided Vietnam by getting Lynne pregnant and Bill Clinton avoided Vietnam with a student deferrment, John Kerry said, "Send me!"
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:04 PM
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6. ya gotta be kidding - have you read ANY headlines in the last 4 years? |
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There are many reasons to jump ship. I encourage you to do so posthaste.
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:06 PM
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7. because Kerry actually gives a rat's ass what happens to us. |
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All we hear from Republicans is their bleating about personal responsibility and they show none, including their Dear Leader.
Kerry's entire life has been one big personal responsibility.
Yeah, I'd rather have a beer with John Kerry who actually has something to say than that nincompoop George W. Bush who never had an original idea in his entire life.
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:06 PM
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8. Simple. Four words: Chief Justice John Ashcroft. |
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:09 PM
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holy crap! that is simply the most frightening thing i have ever heard! |
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:17 PM
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29. LOL! That'd keep any thinking person awake nights! |
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Tue Jul-27-04 12:15 AM
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53. Oh, Jesus H. Ashcroft!!! |
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I hadn't thought of that. Now I WILL NOT sleep until Jan 20. :mad:
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:06 PM
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9. Democrats put people before corporations. |
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Democrats care about everyone, not just rich folks.
There: that's two.
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:10 PM
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15. Yo - two birds, one stone! You win again! Jeopardy wants YOU! |
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I concur wholeheartedly. Oh no - looks like it's over on TV. Hm, what to do now?
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:13 PM
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20. I gotta go to work tomorrow... |
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...I might be headed to bed soon. :hi:
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:49 PM
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43. right - responsibility speaking... must get my ass to bed asap... |
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hm. Well - at the very least, I will retire to the luxe bedchambers to read a book... or something!
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:07 PM
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10. because coming together |
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and being our best selves in strength and wisdom for ourselves and each other is our only hope.
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Tue Jul-27-04 12:16 AM
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54. "Choosing the more perfect union" |
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:07 PM
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11. The America we know won't exist in 4 years |
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if shrub stays where he is
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:14 PM
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21. the WORLD might not exist in 4 years |
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:09 PM
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12. That old MacArthur quote: |
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"The soldier above all others prays for peace, for it is the soldier who must bear the deepest wounds and scars of war."
Kerry, who actually WAS a soldier, would know.
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:09 PM
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13. Because a society cares about equal treatment for all in education, |
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healthcare, liveable wages. When members in our society struggle we all do. Crime rate, drug use, unemployment, and homelessness matter and affect everyone. Real Christians place human value over value of money, and are tolerant and accepting of people who are different. The list goes on and on. Basically the opposite of everything we have seen in the last 4 years.
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:09 PM
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14. He'll give regular Americans a voice |
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Frankly, 98 percent of the population has no voice in the Bush administration -- he can't identify with us and he doesn't care about anything that's important to us. Clinton lied or misled about oral sex, Bush has lied or misled about policies that effect Americans.
If you're in the top 2 percent and need another yacht, vote for Bush. Other than that, he provides NOTHING to anybody in this country. Kerry will at least fight for policies that can help the middle class and the working people -- Bush won't.
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:11 PM
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I appreciate your opinion (and the opinion of others). Thanks everyone, for letting me see the opinion of the other side, instead of just the party line
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:41 PM
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42. Kerry can wind sail, play hockey, snow board and ride a bike... |
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Edited on Mon Jul-26-04 10:42 PM by merh
Kerry is intelligent and responsible.
Shrub cannot ride a bike and does not read the newspapers (or any memos warning of terrorists attacks, but he does sit peacefully for over 7 minutes as children read him "My Pet Goat" while our nation is being attacked).
Balance and brains are important traits that a leader must have to properly lead.
Shrub has neither!
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:11 PM
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who will stand up and give moving testimony to his bravery, fortitude, patriotism, sacrifice and morality. People who relate tales of a man of wealth who put his life on the line, who rejects the politics of elitism, who is willing to sacrifice his money, his freedom, his life for a country he cares deeply about.
Bush has no-one who can tell anything but frat stories or how funny he is or how they saw him at his guard unit, avoiding Vietnam, reading a magazine and telling dirty jokes.
There is a fundamental difference between these two men. One has character forged by devotion to country and countrymen the other has a flippant better than thou attitude forged by a life of leisure and bail outs by others.
Kerry is the better man and the better American.
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:12 PM
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18. Because I'm telling you to! |
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:13 PM
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:16 PM
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27. this guy is one that's leaning Kerry---be nice. |
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:17 PM
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If you think I'm here playing games, I apologize. It's not my intention to irritate you or anyone else here
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:20 PM
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34. sorry....we've had an influx of trolls lately....you're not one of them |
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:hi:
It explains the jumpiness of some people here, so don't take it personally.
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:22 PM
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35. I don't take it personally...I understand the hostility |
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Tue Jul-27-04 12:20 AM
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55. I am glad that you are |
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here asking questions.
The idiots on both sides who cannot carry on a conversation about the issues do us all a disservice.
Keep asking
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:18 PM
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33. Easy there. Repub is an old friend of ours. |
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From way before your time, so I understand that you might be suspicious. So let me tell you, Repub has always been a completely respectful debator and just an all-around good person. Put the knives away.
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:15 PM
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and I believe the concern he has for this country is GENUINE. Because he's not in the back pocket of corporations. Because he is intelligent, articulate, truly compassionate. Because he is the perfect combination of wisdom and strength.
Because he is a true leader who knows America doesn't have to be a bully.
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:15 PM
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24. Because he is not a radical extremist like Bush. |
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He will bring balance back to the political process.
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:16 PM
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25. Because you and I aren't supposed to get along...we're supposed |
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to hate each other under this administration. Because I'm supposed to be UnAmerican while you (not you in particular, republicans) wrap yourself in the flag and claim it for the far right. Because so much destruction has been done to the fabric of who we are as a people and what we are about as a nation, that the time for change has come and we must change...before it's too late. :hi:
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:17 PM
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31. Because she deserved better |
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:25 PM
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36. Damn. So true, so true. They all deserved better than this. |
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:17 PM
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32. Single biggest reason: |
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I want to live in a safer and more prosperous world.
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:27 PM
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38. Because the Repubs need a divided America |
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so their agenda will work, we don't. :hi:
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:31 PM
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39. Because the Repubs need a divided America |
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so their agenda will work, WE don't.
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:31 PM
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40. To regain U. S. world Power |
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I mean that seriously. We lead the world. But they allow us to lead. They respect us for what we have accomplished admist many cultural, race, etc.. yet bond together. They respect our military might.
During the last four years I have seen the world loose it's respect for the U.S.A. because of Bush and his policys. The world is learning they CAN ban together against the U.S.A. We are strong, but we can NOT take on the whole world. World leaders are respectfuly waiting for a new leader to be chosen.
Right now, Bush setting in the White House is being over looked as a fluke, not as being elected by the People. Americans as a whole are not tainted "guilty" of Bush's actions. If Bush is elected and they realize that HE is truely the will of the American People, they will think differently about us.. PERMENTLY.
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Mon Jul-26-04 11:01 PM
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45. Nonsense like this is most worrying |
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There is, in fact, no fluke or inconsistancy involved with W's gang.. It is in fact the logical product of much of what you praise.
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:31 PM
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41. Hi Repub! Long time no see. |
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Don't know if you'd remember me -- I don't think we crossed posts too often in the old days -- but I certainly remember you, and it's nice to see you back around.
It's funny, I was just wondering about you a few days ago -- and here you just suddenly show up! (cue Twilight Zone music...)
Anyway, to answer your question -- you should vote for Kerry (and strongly encourage all your friends and family to do likewise) because HIS policies will actually preserve a middle class in America, which in turn generates more prosperity for everyone.
Bush's economic policies are going to morph this country into corporate feudalism -- the select few "owners" at the top, wiht everybody else reduced to serfhood.
As soon as I can find a transcript of Bill Clinton's speech (that he just gave at the DNC -- it was AWESOME), I'll post it for you. He lays down the contrast in policies MUCH better than I can.
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Mon Jul-26-04 10:53 PM
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44. Because we are family! |
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Mon Jul-26-04 11:32 PM
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46. Kerry doesn't order troops to rape children. |
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And then blame the troops when the media finds out.
Don't get me wrong, I like you, but it's a bit late to be sitting on the fence.
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Mon Jul-26-04 11:45 PM
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47. Good to see you, Repub |
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Here's a part of a recent thread started by a self-described ex-Republican who still sounds like he could be reasonably conservative. I quote a post of mine on the thread: (A) conservative isn't necessarily a racist or a religionist. Conventionally, while it would be improper to call Nazi Germany a leftist regime, it would be just as improper to call it a conservative one. Conservatism speaks mostly to issues of the economy, respect for law, etc.
In those respects (and you might agree with this), I have more reason to call myself a conservative than do most members of the Bush junta. For example, I believe that a good fiscal policy is like a good conservation policy: no one should take from the system faster than it can be renewed. I would describe myself as a fiscal conservative. I'm as against a reckless tax-and-spend approach to government spending as Warren Rudman.
Conservative is the most abused word in the modern American political lexicon. George Will is a conservative; Ann Coulter is not. Gerald Ford is a conservative; Jesse Helms is not. John McCain is a conservative; Tom DeLay is not. The conservatives, while they may not be radical egalitarians, past muster as far that goes. They believe that when elections are held, each citizen should have one vote, no more or no less; they respect another person's right to hold views different from their own. While I have issues with the stands these people take on certain issues, it is still possible to hold a dialog with them. It's the difference between conservative William F. Buckley, who treated his guests with differing viewpoints with respect and allowed them speak before he tore them apart with barbed questions, and right wing Bill O'Reilly, whose response to those who don't agree with him is "Shut up! Cut his mike!" One didn't have to agree with Buckley to learn something from his presentation. Looking back, Buckley did a true service in the cause of promoting political discourse among Americans. For that, I express my appreciation of him.
One should hope that true conservatives will find a way divorce themselves from the far right. They don't really have that much in common. Bill Clinton represented conservatism better than does Bush. Four years ago, I voted for Nader because I didn't think Clinton (and, by extension, Gore) was on the right path about issues of trade the the roll of corporate power in public affairs. This year, I'm voting for Kerry, although I probably don't like him as much as I liked Gore. The point is that Bush -- with his phony colonial war justified by lies, his support of the Patriot Act, his use of the tax system to transfer wealth from the bottom up and his policy of giving a pass to corporate crime -- must go. He is unaccountable and believes he is entitled to be above accountability. That is beyond anything the most conservative of our founding fathers (I suppose that would be Hamilton) envisioned; never mind that it is alien to the principles of Jeffersonian democracy.
I'm not saying that either of us will vote to re-elect Kerry four years from now, or even for the same candidate four years from now. Nevertheless, we should vote for Kerry this time. If President Kerry does nothing else to please either of us, if he can create an environment that promotes discourse and puts an end to any serious discussion about whether either the President or cabinet members should have the right to strip an American of his citizenship, then it will be a worthwhile vote.
I hope that helps.
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Mon Jul-26-04 11:51 PM
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48. Good decision making under duress. |
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If you've ever been around a combat vet, you see a sureness that is absent in non veterans.
Teddy Roosevelt had San Juan Hill, John Kerry had his Swift Boat crew. Here's a fellow who repeatedly made the right decisions under fire.
It may seem hokey, but during war time I want somebody as CIC who has been under fire and returned it. And if he's personally pulled trigger on the gun that has sent a few of the enemies of this nation to hell, then all the better.
I have confidence he'll balance the budget, too.
With Bush, we have soembody who is quick on the draw, but what good is that if he can't shoot straight. And he's failed to shoot straight way too many times for me.
Coolness under fire means a lot to me.
Harvey Briggs
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Mon Jul-26-04 11:53 PM
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49. here's a link to the Clinton transcript... |
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Edited on Mon Jul-26-04 11:55 PM by cerulean_ink
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Tue Jul-27-04 12:00 AM
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Repub! Where have you been? I'm glad to see you! Er, read you!
Biggest reason to vote for Kerry? For me, the biggest reason(s) are the loss of civil liberties, the environment, the judges, women's rights (here and around the world), not just one reason.
Are you going to stick around for a while? Please do.
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I dont know ya but even if you dont agree with Kerry on everything, I think you should vote Kerry over Bush because Kerry shows the values many Americans were brought up believing, that is love of country, John Kerry enlisted in the US Navy despite being privileged and Bush did not despite his support of the Vietnam war, faith, Bush talks a great deal about religion but I dont think he means what he says and the bible preaches compassion and Kerry is a faithful Catholic, responsiblity, Kerry has shown responsiblity under pressure and Bush it can be argued hasnt, service see about about love of country. Kerry believes in the values the greatest generation fought and died for, which are some of those I mentioned above, he's a man who remembers the memories of those he lost to war, a man who understands, you may not agree with him on your key issues but he shows I think the values that make America great.
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Tue Jul-27-04 12:12 AM
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Bush will turn the US into a third world country. If you happen to be rich, you will forever have to live behind a fortress for your own safety, as crime will surely increase with more poverty.
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Tue Jul-27-04 12:22 AM
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56. George W. Bush thinks he can label any of us "enemy combatants" |
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and imprison us wihout access to a lawyer or our families (the Jose Padilla case).
That isn't the mindset we should have in the White House.
John Kerry is a more decent person.
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Tue Jul-27-04 12:30 AM
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57. Like the scarecrow in the wizard * needs a brain |
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anyone, and I mean anyone, would have done something other than just sit there, for seven long minutes, when informed by andy card that America was under attack. If John Kerry had waited for seven minutes before turning his swiftboat about war casualties would have increased by one that day.
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Tue Jul-27-04 12:33 AM
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58. You should vote for Kerry because: |
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We all need to fly our flags again without feeling that we are saying by doing so that we support dividing America into little groups who hate each other and collectively hate the rest of the world.
We need to fly our flags again and feel proud because we mean as we do it that we believe in Freedom. Freedom for all people (not just those who agree with the President), freedom that is guaranteed to us by our Constitution and represented by the flag.
We need to be people who care for those less fortunate and who try to bring understanding and peace to the world.
We do not need to be party to the Project for a New American Century.
PNAC......Look it up.
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