Rush on Clinton speech

[shockingelk]

Apparently, it's all about "one tiny part". Here's the part (and I agree with Rush that this and the part preceding it about how we don't need a divided electorate, but they do - is the most powerful part of of Clinton's speech):

"After 9/11, we all wanted to be one nation, strong in the fight against terror. The president had a great opportunity to bring us together under his slogan of compassionate conservatism and to unite the world in common cause against terror. Instead, he and his congressional allies made a very different choice: to use the moment of unity to push America too far to the right and to walk away from our allies, not only in attacking Iraq before the weapons inspectors finished their jobs, but in withdrawing American support for the Climate Change Treaty, the International Court for war criminals, the ABM treaty, and even the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty."

Rush says all of that is factually untrue. He attempted to show that by stating these points:

#1 That if Bush would have moved to the right, he'd be "ahead by 60% in the polls." (my comment: earlier in the show a caller asked "What? Are you believing the Democrat's polls?" to which Rush replied, "I don't believe any polls.")

#2 Because Bush went to the UN and got a resolution. (my comment: and then we walked away from it)

#X Rush ignored the part about about attacking Iraq before the inspections were finished, as if Clinton never said it.

#3 Climate Change: "Kyoto was killed four months before Bush took office." (my comment: Clinton said the US walked away from it, not that we killed it)

#4: AMB treaty: "The ABM treaty was with the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union doesn't exist, so there already was no treaty ... this is the shortest version I can give." (my comment: so we all can assume he could give a longer version that may have kinda sorta made a bit of sense)

When Rush was presenting his thing in #1, he veered off into a Lewinski tirade - ("I've been in the Oval room. I was there, I know"). When he realized he was trying to "divide the electorate", he stopped himself, "I didn't mean to say any of that, it just came out."

(on edit - Limbaugh did say something about the ICC court, but I was distracted - it has something to do with "we don't want our soldiers to be" - but he numbered the issues #1-#4 as if Clinton only made four claims and all of them were false)

[Ediacara]

1. About the ABM treaty....

When the Soviet Union collapsed, didn't all treaties with the USSR become treaties with the individual states in the USSR?

[shockingelk]

3. With Russia, I believe

Here's info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABM_treaty

The more important post is that Bush wouldn't have notified Russia we were withdrawing from the treaty if there was no treaty.

[Droopy]

2. Typical

Rush often contradicts himself even in the same show.

I don't see how you can stand to listen to him. I used to listen to him, but he made me ill. I guess it's good to know what the enemy is saying and Rush gets his talking points straight from the RNC so we know this is basically how the Republican elite think, but you're a better person than me for being able to sit through that.

[yellowcanine]

4. Who cares what he thinks? Just say No and tune to another station. Rush

is never going to give a thoughtful analysis of anything so I avoid him. I don't want to fill up my beautiful mind with his sophomoric ramblings.

[shockingelk]

5. That's like saying "Who cares if Nader runs" n/t