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dumpster_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 04:07 PM
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Lakoff on Frameworks: GOP/Bush==SternFather; Dems==NurturingParent
Edited on Wed Jul-28-04 04:48 PM by dumpster_baby

George Lakoff is brilliant in this interview. Please skim this and if you find it interesting, the link to the full interview is at bottom. I have bolded some particularly insightful comments:
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Well, the progressive worldview is modeled on a nurturant parent family. Briefly, it assumes that the world is basically good and can be made better and that one must work toward that. Children are born good; parents can make them better. Nurturing involves empathy, and the responsibility to take care of oneself and others for whom we are responsible. On a larger scale, specific policies follow, such as governmental protection in form of a social safety net and government regulation, universal education (to ensure competence, fairness), civil liberties and equal treatment (fairness and freedom), accountability (derived from trust), public service (from responsibility), open government (from open communication), and the promotion of an economy that benefits all and functions to promote these values, which are traditional progressive values in American politics. The conservative worldview, the strict father model, assumes that the world is dangerous and difficult and that children are born bad and must be made good. The strict father is the moral authority who supports and defends the family, tells his wife what to do, and teaches his kids right from wrong. The only way to do that is through painful discipline — physical punishment that by adulthood will become internal discipline. The good people are the disciplined people. Once grown, the self-reliant, disciplined children are on their own. Those children who remain dependent (who were spoiled, overly willful, or recalcitrant) should be forced to undergo further discipline or be cut free with no support to face the discipline of the outside world.

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So, project this onto the nation and you see that to the right wing, the good citizens are the disciplined ones — those who have already become wealthy or at least self-reliant — and those who are on the way. Social programs, meanwhile, "spoil" people by giving them things they haven't earned and keeping them dependent. The government is there only to protect the nation, maintain order, administer justice (punishment), and to provide for the promotion and orderly conduct of business. In this way, disciplined people become self-reliant. Wealth is a measure of discipline. Taxes beyond the minimum needed for such government take away from the good, disciplined people rewards that they have earned and spend it on those who have not earned it. In the strict father model, the big thing is discipline and moral authority, and punishment for those who do something wrong. That comes out very clearly in the Bush administration's foreign and domestic policy. With Schwarzenegger, it's in his movies: most of the characters that he plays exemplify that moral system. He didn't have to say a word! He just had to stand up there, and he represents Mr. Discipline. He knows what's right and wrong, and he's going to take it to the people. He's not going to ask permission, or have a discussion, he's going to do what needs to be done, using force and authority. His very persona represents what conservatives are about.
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None. They don't get it at all. But they're in a funny position. The framing changes that have to be made are long-term changes. The conservatives understood this in 1973. By 1980 they had a candidate, Ronald Reagan, who could take all this stuff and run with it. The progressives don't have a candidate now who understands these things and can talk about them. And in order for a candidate to be able to talk about them, the ideas have to be out there. You have to be able to reference them in a sound bite. Other people have to put these ideas into the public domain, not politicians. The question is, How do you get these ideas out there? There are all kinds of ways, and one of the things the Rockridge Institute is looking at is talking to advocacy groups, which could do this very well. They have more of a budget, they're spread all over the place, and they have access to the media.
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Right now the Democratic Party is into marketing. They pick a number of issues like prescription drugs and Social Security and ask which ones sell best across the spectrum, and they run on those issues. They have no moral perspective, no general values, no identity. People vote their identity, they don't just vote on the issues, and Democrats don't understand that. Look at Schwarzenegger, who says nothing about the issues. The Democrats ask, How could anyone vote for this guy? They did because he put forth an identity. Voters knew who he is.
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much more here:

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/10/27_lakoff_p2.shtml


If you read this maybe you will see why I think most political activism as practiced by liberals is just a waste of time. We have to first create a memetic backdrop, a worldview, into which can step liberal candidates.

In order to create this worldview, we have to get mass media airplay. Otherwise, everything is pretty much for naught.

My idea for a new progressive worldview is to co-opt the pro-corporate bizspeak that the Right Wing has been spewing for the last 30 years. We need to use their own propaganda against them. Portrary America as a business owned jointly by the citizens, and each citizen by rights should be equally able to share in the business opportunities that America makes available. Portray the GOP as ripping off the citizenry of their citizenship dividends.


Edit: to correct url link....
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 04:11 PM
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1. "it assumes that the world is basically good" I disagree with that.
You don't have to believe that 'the world is basically good' in order to believe that 'the world can be made better'.

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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 04:13 PM
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2. agree, definitely on the theory of the sound bite
that's very obvious, given the level of discourse nowadays

but.......I/ve heard him on the radio several times, and his own responses to the same, tired old, but EFFECTIVE pugmemes are, themselves, too long, and/or not very soundbyte-worthy

like trial lawyers vs. defenders of something I can't remember. see? didn't even work for me, cause it didn't resonate, like the nasty pejorative they've made trial lawyers into

what's to be done, cause those who need persuading will NOT take the time to look past the superficial
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 04:16 PM
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3. Thanks for posting this
I believe Lakoff is onto the manner in which we can SHIFT the language much as the GOP did. He has a think tank dedicated to doing so.

I don't have time to read this now but will bookmark and get back to it.
:thumbsup:
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dumpster_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 04:22 PM
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4. Also, progressives could use the corporate scandals as natural background
If the progressives want to create a worldview wherein America is a jointly owned business, and where the GOP is ripping off the citizen-shareholders, then they could tap into the Enron/corporate scandal era, and associate that with the GOP, and portray progressives as prosecutors of the GOP, who are in collusion with corporate ripoffs.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 04:33 PM
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5. Lakoff is the left's savior...
Everyone at DU should watch or listen to his appearance on last week’s NOW with Bill Moyers. It’s online here, thanks to Wonk:

Video: http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs/wonk/NOW/NOW.07.23.04.GeorgeLakoff.vp3

Audio: http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs/wonk/NOW/NOW.07.23.04.GeorgeLakoff.mp3


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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 04:34 PM
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6. Hmmmm... your link's bad...
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dumpster_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 04:48 PM
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7. Ok, fixed that--thanks
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