Ben Affleck Doing Great Job On Crossfire

[GiovanniC]

Tucker and Novak tag-teaming him -- he's holding his own.

"How you enjoying your tax cut, Bob?"

[fertilizeonarbusto]

1. LOL

Bravo, Ben, great line.

[West Coast Democrat]

2. I've developed a new respect for Ben Affleck recently...

but I still don't like Matt Damon.

[DjTj]

9. What's wrong with good Will Hunting? (nt)

[Media_Lies_Daily]

10. What's wrong with Matt Damon?

[West Coast Democrat]

12. He seems like a weasel...

[Media_Lies_Daily]

22. Interesting response...but no real substance.

[West Coast Democrat]

24. I just don't like his acting or his appearance...

and anyway, I hear he doesn't care about politics.

[Gildor Inglorion]

27. Matt said earlier this week that he's going to vote for Kerry

even though he's never voted before! That ain't too shabby, I think. Besides, he's a major studmuffin and a good actor, too. :9

[West Coast Democrat]

30. I find it inexcusable that he hasn't voted before...

and yet he spends so much time with the likes of Ben Affleck and George Clooney (both of whom are much better looking!)

[Trajan]

58. There is no accouting for taste ....

But unfounded hatred seems a bit unbecoming ....

[Cha]

56. My son is going to register to vote in Hawaii for the

first time so he can help get bush out. I didn't start voting until 1998..been trying to make up for it ever since.

Matt Damon is a wonderful actor..have you seen "The Bourne Idenity" and Bourne 2 is suppose to be really good, too.

[OKNancy]

28. If I told you he gave $5000.00

to MoveOn and $2000 to Kucinich would you think better of him?

I liked him!

[West Coast Democrat]

32. But he hasn't bothered to vote before!

[redqueen]

35. Lots of people haven't

He supported Kucinich in the primary, so I love him. :)

[West Coast Democrat]

36. That's fine...

I'm still not a fan. I mean, didn't he go to Harvard? He should know better!!

[Media_Lies_Daily]

40. And you're basing your entire opinion on him not voting before?...

I didn't vote for the first time until I was in my thirties...so what? Quite a few people got turned off by politics at one time or another...for me it was during my high school, college, and military years: 1965 through 1981. That covers the fallout from the bogus Warren Commission, the Vietnam War, Watergate, and the hostages in Iran. Any wonder why I was a little disenchanted by the political process?

Meanwhile, Damon at age 33 has seen the effects of Iran-Contra, the attacks on Clinton, and the Coup of December 2000. What opinion do you think he had of politics based on what he had already seen? We're actually fortunate that people like Damon are returning to politics in such large numbers.

Maybe you should know better than to be so judgemental.

[West Coast Democrat]

42. He's close to my same age...

and he went to college in the same town that I did. I voted, and was involved in politics. I can't understand how any educated person can be apolitical.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

46. I guess you didn't read my post, or you chose to ignore it completely...

...how you grew up and whether or not you decided to get involved with politics is as much a product of your family life as it is personal choice.

[West Coast Democrat]

47. I read your post...

But I still don't see how having lived through Iran Contra, etc. excuses a Harvard-educated, Noam Chomsky neighbor from voting.

[fujiyama]

49. I'm not going to defend

him not voting (I really find it ridiculous and inexcusable not to vote), but he did say one reason why was because he lives in a very democratic state so he figured it wouldn't matter anyways.

He's obviously not ignorant of political issues, but I sort of see why he wouldn't find it very important in a state where one vote most likely wouln't effect a presidential race. Granted, that doesn't mean one vote doesn't count in more local races, congressional and senate races, and other state wide races.

[West Coast Democrat]

51. Ummm...MA has had quite a few Republican governors

including the current governor.

Also, his disinterest in politics is not the only reason I don't like him. I just don't like his acting style, films, etc. Not that you've implied it in your post (but others have), but I hope it's not required that I like every actor who happens to be a liberal or a Democrat.

[fujiyama]

52. Check my other post down below

:)

[KT2000]

37. Friend of Howard Zinn

Matt Damon grew up next to Howard Zinn. He also read for one of Zinn's audio books.

Damon grew up in a coop neighborhood and I am sure his childhood was steeped in politics. I find him an interesting person and I am guessing that his politics are a bit more complicated than the average person. I am inclined to be curious about him rather than judgmental - I hope.


Edit - changed Noam Chomsky to Howard Zinn

[West Coast Democrat]

38. These arguments are only making me feel worse about the fact...

that he has never voted before!!!

Also your line about his politics being "more complicated than the average person"...sounds pretty snooty.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

43. The fact that he's never voted before is his problem, but it looks like...

...he's gotten over it. Maybe you should, too.

[West Coast Democrat]

45. Look, I don't have to like the guy...

I don't really like his movies or his acting style. All politics aside.

Besides...this is supposed to be a thread about Ben Affleck! I'm sorry I even brought up Matt Damon.

[fujiyama]

50. LOL

don't worry about it. Don't feel that you have to like an entertainer just because of their politics. I can't stand Barbara Streisand, liberal or not. I find her to be incredibly anoying.

[KT2000]

53. Snooty?

Holy cow! To acknowledge that someone who grows up with an intense political atmosphere in his community would probably have a more complicated political life than most is not "snooty." Most of us do not have that background, nor do we have the experience of living in a community defined by its politics. I would imagine that an adolescent would internalize "politics" much differently that the average person.

Would a child in that environment rebel against a life defined by a political stance?

Does his not voting reflect a break that allowed him to develop his own world view and political beliefs?

Like I said - I find him an interesting and intelligent person.

You are entitled to you judgment though.

[Ridiculous Bill]

48. damon

i think you're thinking of howard zinn

[KT2000]

54. You are right!!

Red-faced here!

[newyawker99]

55. Hi Ridiculous Bill!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Dookus]

3. I like when he offered to

set Tucker up with a transgendered person, since Tucker seems to have a 'thing' for them.

How long until Tucker's arrested with a tranny hooker?

[ewagner]

4. LOL

Tucker tried to get Afleck to say that the GLBT reps were "embarrassment" to the Dem party.....Ben said to Tucker something like: "You're always bringing up transgender, Tucker. If you want I can introduce you to some people".

I thought Carville was going to fall off the stool laughing.

Ben is quick witted!

[Tellurian]

17. ewag..

what does GLBT stand for...


lost in translation..

[nostamj]

18. Gay Lesbian Bisexual Transgender n/t

[gratuitous]

19. GLBT

Gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered. Some people now add an "I" for intersexed and "Q" for questing.

[Tellurian]

21. JMJ

I'm really out of the loop-

now I understand Affleck's comment..hee!

He nailed Novak as well!

Good on ya Ben!

[Skidmore]

25. What the heck do

intersexed and questing mean? Sorry, I've lived a sheltered life. I plead ignorance.

[Book Lover]

29. Defined

Intersexed persons are born with a gender anomaly, usually ambiguous genitalia. Questing is a person who hasn't figured out what their sexual alignment is but is actively seeking the answer.

[Skidmore]

33. Thanks for the assist. n/t

[Sabriel]

20. Gay Lesbian Bisexual Transgender n/t

[Tellurian]

23. I got it, thanks..

I'm just a garden variety het..

[ewagner]

34. If I remember correctly

Gay
Lesbian
Bi (sexual)
Transgender

Referred to as the GLBT community.

[Cha]

57. LMAO! I know Ben is quick witted! And he's committed

to our Democracy! Remember him in F9/11? :D

[shawmut]

5. I've seen a lot of him this week and have been very impressed

I would not mind seeing him run for office someday.

[eissa]

6. I was really surprised by him

He was great on Hardball, impressing even David Gergen. Our guys are so smart -- take that Arnold!

[AspenRose]

7. Maybe politics is in his future

Can't rule it out completely....

[gatorboy]

8. Is Affleck running for something?

He sure has been commentating alot lately. Which is funny. These guys, as well as O'Reilly love to despide celebrities, but they can't get enough of them. They can't admit that they get starstruck...or that they enjoy the ratings boost.

[AspenRose]

14. Remember in Fahrenheit 9/11 he was on stage next to Gore

at the very beginning of the movie.

I think he's just a passionate, angry Democrat who wants to see us reclaim the WH and puts his money where his mouth is.

[West Coast Democrat]

26. Yes, he was involved in Gore's campaign also

I recall seeing him at different events on CSPAN

[wyldwolf]

39. He has discussed a senate run in the future

[MuseRider]

11. I never really had much of

an opinion of him, good actor, good looking but this week I have seen him as a good, intellegent human being. I am glad he is there, he is doing well. I guess now I should pay more attention.

[West Coast Democrat]

13. He was on O' Lieley the other day, wasn't he?

I didn't see the show.

[Swede]

15. Richard Dreyfuss said "What if you told the plumbers,or the carpenters

to shut up?" I think he was on Larry King. Another one in the Democratic corner.

[greenbriar]

16. What is this shit of NOvak bringing up 1971 and wanting

Kerry to sign a form for his records released?



Carville said "we still haven't gotten bush's




Novak must be hitting the bottle aweful hard

CRoshfire

[stanwyck]

31. I'm selfish. I like celebrities to speak up

because they do influence people who are hard to reach. There are people who didn't watch Al Sharpton last night. Or Obama. Or Kucinech. Or Edwards. They have no idea what the Dems stand for...but they do know Meryl, Robert Di Niro, Robin Williams, Whoopi, Sarah Jessica Parker, Matthew Broderick, John Mellencamp, Jon Bon Jovi, Jessica Lange, and countless others. These people do bring in votes. Sure, it's shallow. But at this point, I just want to win. Our country desperately needs new leadership. These celebrities are taxpayers. They work for a living. They have as much right to speak up as anyone else. So, if the easily influenced will vote for Kerry based on Ben Affleck, fine with me.
I just want to win.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

41. Good for Ben. Sounds like he's better as a drive-by pundit than an actor.

I think he's a stiff in his movies, except for simple roles like "The Boiler Room." But I'm still glad he's on our side.

[ParisFrance]

44. He has had a few bad movies lately , but look at his earlier flicks.

[Cha]

59. Here's a quote from Ben I got over at bartcop.

"I really appreciate that Bush saw fit to give me, who already has a ton of money, a bunch more.
He didn't want to waste that money making sure that everyday Americans could afford health care.
Or properly equipping our men and women in Iraq - who have to buy their own body armor."