The Hermann Goering quote - Very creepy

[Blue Gardener]

I saw this taped to a co-workers computer today. It looks like it's right out of the neo-con playbook.

"Naturally, the common people don't want war, but after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country."
Hermann Goering, Hitler's Reich-Marshal at the Nuremberg Trials after WWII

Snopes says it is true. I'm sending it to a few people who doubt Bush* and company are as evil as I keep saying they are.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

1. I spread this one around during the propaganda runup to the war,

because Roveco proved Goering right once again. Sadly it's now too late to prevent the invasion but it is still a good illustration of how shrubco operates and worth spreading.

It's really amazing how many gifted and brilliant people the Nazis had on their side, not just generals but scientists, writers, political people etc., in the service of a madman and his mad cause. Incredible to think what such a nation would have accomplished with a truly great leadership.

[Blue Gardener]

2. Time for people on the fence to read it

They need to realize they were duped into supporting this war.

[seventhson]

7. They could not have been too brilliant if they were on the Nazis side...

and gifted is also stretching it.

He was not just mad he was perversion and mental illness incarnate.

anyone who followed or supported him was sick from day one and there was nothing brilliant about them.

I understand your poibnt but it always sticks in my craw when people call conservative or fascist assholes like Buckley and Rove and Bork brilliant or gifted.

If they support fascist idealogy and treason to our Constitution they are blithering idiots, psychologically retarded and perverted cwaapools of men.

To be pitied.

Hitlers followers fall in this category.

[donco6]

3. While that is true,

the one ray of hope is that eventually people get tired of getting jerked around. I think America is right at that point. They're not believing Bush and Co. as readily as they used to, and that's a good sign for change.

[smirkymonkey]

4. Dude!!! Where do you work??

The National Review? :scared:

[Blue Gardener]

6. Don't call me dude. n/t

[smirkymonkey]

8. Take it with a grain of salt. n/t

[Blue Gardener]

10. Sorry, just a pet peeve

I have taken my grain of salt. I actually work in the offices of a large manufacturing company. The gentleman who has this posted is a long time liberal, an old hippie from way back.

[smirkymonkey]

12. Oh, sorry... I thought you were saying that

the person who had the quote up put it there because he was inspired by it, not as a horrific warning. Sorry I misunderstood. :)

[doctorbombeigh]

5. The quote is accurate. Well known to old people like me, but very

useful for folks to see who haven't seen it before.

It's creepy as hell and sadly - quite true.

[Disturbed]

9. Prescott Bush supported the Nazis.

Search engine it.

1) Iraq being cleared of WMD by the UNMOVIC/UNSCOM meant Desert Storm (when Saddam went off the reservation) was over and sanctions had to be lifted.

2) Iraq had European contracts for their oil.

3) Iraq was going to trade the oil in Euros not petrodollars.

"Remember, Bush/Saud are the same thing. BDM/Vinnel (Carlyle at the time) arm, train, equip man what keeps Saud in power. Saudi crude funds the whole Bush/Saud crew. Iraq suddenly free again to sell its oil, and in Euros not only screws Bush/Saud, but would cripple the US economy along multiple fracture lines.

First and obviously, having the 2nd largest oil reserve of accessible crude come onto the market will drive the value of Saudi crude into the basement. That Iraq would end run the rest of OPEC to make up for a decade of being starved would scatter the cartel members into the winds to fend for themselves. So what is better, to let Iraq crude take out your own operation at the knees or take it over and roll it into the same portfolio.

Second, because Iraq was gonna devalue your own assets in the first place, doing so outside our traditional partner firms and with European (French, Russian, German) firms visions of Chinnese orders means you are not getting a swing at that crude even in the rest of the chain.

Third, and most critical (and actually more "forgivable" in a strange circumpolar way) is that trading in Euros not petrodollars collapse our capital market funding of our debt and deficits, both Governmental budget and general economic. If China (as its demand for oil goes through the roof in the next 10 years) starts trading with Iraq, and the Euro becomes the currency for oil (not to mention it is already on the edge of surpassing the dollar for capital markets anyway base don value as it is) suddenly China has no need to continue to buy our debt. It would get more of a return in Euros, plus it buys oil form Iraq in Euros."

Christian Parenti

[LunaC]

11. "What luck for the rulers that men do not think." - Adolph Hitler

And another worth remembering:

"When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."

- Thomas Jefferson




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