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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:47 PM
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Gillespie rattled by Tweety
Edited on Thu Jul-29-04 06:54 PM by TheWebHead
this is some heated shit... Tweety's got Gillespie a little steamed.

Tweety laughed off Rick Santorum speaking as a "balance" to socially liberal Ahh-nold and Rudy.

Tweety dismissed the $87 billion as a protest vote, wanted other examples.. Gillespie went through the talking points going "you want more, huh? huh? etc" .. towards the end Tweety gave him some props though.

partial computer generated transcript:

>> Give me some hard line celebrities you'll be putting up on the platform.

>> Senator rick santorum from pennsylvania. As he strong republican.

>> Touche. You nailed me on that one. I never thought that I was going to be so wrong about something. Give me a break! Rick santorum is as big -- arnold schwarzenegger is known by every kid in the world. Rudolph giuliani is the most respected churchian. And you say rick san or the snum.

>> You asked me to name -- tell me a conservative with the kind of name I.D. That rudolph giuliani or arnold schwarzenegger have besides mr. Cheney and president bush.

>> The point is that you're criticizing the democrats for putting their more conservative voices up front.

>> No, I'm not.

>> And you're putting your more liberal voices.

>> Take a breath and listen to what I'm saying for a second. I'm not criticizing them for whom they have put on the podium. That's fine who they put on the podium. More importantly, what they say or don't say. The fact is they are not running on senator kerry's record. Listen to what we say in

new york. We're running on president bush's record. Who speaks doesn't matter to me. It's more of what are they saying? What are they trying to could

convey?

>> You know more than I know about a lot of these things. Let me remind you, when you get your little insert encyclopedia britain today or the online 30 or 40 years ago, when you call a guy's record, the record for john kerry will be, he went to vietnam. He won a silver star, a bronze star and three purples. That will be on the record. When you say they're not running on the record, he's the captain of the ship, the skip, he and all that language, that is on the mark.

>> Chris, that's great.

>> On the war in iraq, it will say what did he with his life. Isn't it?

>> You may not consider that vote relevant to --

>> I don't think it is record.

>> You don't think it is his record that he voted against $87 million to fund our troop from combat.

>> Look. You worked on the hill. You know that that was not a close vote. That was something like 70-20.

>> So this is a protest vote. Is that what it was?

>> When the --

>> Was it a protest vote?

>> Yes.

>> It was a protest vote, is that right?

>> When the republican party -- do you remember being in the minority? I knew you when you were in the minority, ed. And back then, you had to offer a lot of protest votes simply to make clear.

>> May i ask you another question? Did he say on face the nation after being asked, even if your amendment fails, will you vote for the $87 million? Did he not say yes, i am, because it would be irresponsible not to fund our troops in combat? And then did he not turn around and do exactly that under pressure from howard dean in the primaries? Is that not part of his record as well as vietnam?

>> Is it fair someone said from your party's side, it is a fair enough shot. She said that --

>> Chris. Let me be comprehensive for you. Can i be comprehensive? How about the fact that he voted for nasty a and now says he is against it.

>> We brought that up an hour ago.

>> How about the fact that he said he was in favor of dividend tax relief and then on owed it?

>> You're making the point. Keep it up.

>> All these votes.

>> The point about nafta when we had a couple labor leaders. Is that worth considering in the senate? Is that part of his record as well? How about his vote against the tax credit? How about his vote against the repeal of the marriage penalty? Is that part of his record worth discussing relative to what he might do if he's in office as president of the united states? Is that relevant?
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:48 PM
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1. Details?
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:48 PM
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2. What's going down?
Is Tweety acting like he's been reading his email?
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:48 PM
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3. details?
please.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:49 PM
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4. What did tweety say to gilespi?
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:49 PM
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5. fill us in please
please please please

I hate that rat fucker
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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:50 PM
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6. Tweety?
who dat?
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:50 PM
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7. Chris Matthews
Big ass tweety bird =P
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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:53 PM
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11. thanks
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:51 PM
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8. Chris Matthews
Because his giant blonde head gives him a striking resemblence to tweety bird.
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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:54 PM
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13. thanks
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:52 PM
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9. did Tweety finally propose
?
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:52 PM
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10. he's desperate, sweaty, and pathetic.
Same three lines over and over again.

What a rodent!

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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:53 PM
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12. Gillespie referred to our candidate as "President Kerry"
he did it when talking about all the military generals and admirals who are supporting Kerry. I'll bet Gillespie wishes he had wound down a little faster!
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:01 PM
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16. Ha! Well, let's hope that really conveys his subconscious assessment.
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:00 PM
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14. I hate that little rat


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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:00 PM
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15. Tweety Had Gillespie Sweating, Then Let Him Walk...
Note to the Kerry people: Tweety helped shoot that $87 millions dollar scam out of the water, and in proper perspective. Didn't Kerry vote for the $40 million version? Why don't Democrats come out and say what the extra $47 million in that bill was for. Halliburton! Are we now afraid to say that?
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:07 PM
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18. It wouldn't be hard to put that vote in context
Voters will understand - I really wish they would blow the pigs out of the water on this....
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:43 PM
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20. This Is What Pisses Me Off...
All this flip-flop shit is taken out of context of time and the specific vote. Tweety nailed Gilespie as the GOOP uses protest votes all the time. What the hell was the GMA? They knew it wasn't going to pass, but you'll see them out using it as campaign meat in the bible belt nonetheless. Totally disengenuous and I'm glad the Democrats haven't lowered themselves to do this trick.

Another was that snap vote on unemployment...a trap Frist set up to try to make it look like it was Kerry's fault the bill didn't pass...with some Senators literally selling their vote...voting 180 to what their convictions would, just for political gain. No one said boo about this.

And when are we going to plaster the "no nation building" and the picture of tanks patrolling Baghdad...or compassionate "conservative" and show the large lines at unemployment offices and the growing number of people without insurance or hope. And there's Crashcart's flip on Gay marriage and we could go on and on.

The media whores like the quick soundbites and Gillespie and the GOOP give it to 'em. Listen to these slime merchants...they get on message and stay that way. It's truely Orwellian.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:57 PM
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21. Some of *'s flip flops....
* Bush is against campaign finance reform; then he's for it.
* Bush is against a Homeland Security Department; then he's for it.
* Bush is against a 9/11 commission; then he's for it.
* Bush is against an Iraq WMD investigation; then he's for it.
* Bush is against nation building; then he's for it.
* Bush is against deficits; then he's for them.
* Bush is for free trade; then he's for tariffs on steel; then he's against them again.
* Bush is against the U.S. taking a role in the Israeli Palestinian conflict; then he pushes for a "road map" and a Palestinian State.
* Bush is for states right to decide on gay marriage, then he is for changing the constitution.
* Bush first says he'll provide money for first responders (fire, police, emergency), then he doesn't.
* Bush first says that 'help is on the way' to the military ... then he cuts benefits
* Bush-"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. Bush-"I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care.
* Bush claims to be in favor of the environment and then secretly starts drilling on Padre Island.
* Bush talks about helping education and increases mandates while cutting funding.
* Bush first says the U.S. won't negotiate with North Korea. Now he will
* Bush goes to Bob Jones University. Then say's he shouldn't have.
* Bush said he would demand a U.N. Security Council vote on whether to sanction military action against Iraq. Later Bush announced he would not call for a vote
* Bush said the "mission accomplished" banner was put up by the sailors.  Bush later admits it was his advance team.
* Bush was for fingerprinting and photographing Mexicans who enter the US. Bush after meeting with Pres. Fox he's against it.
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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:04 PM
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17. What I thought was funny
was Mathews trying to get Gillespie to agree with his warped view of Sharpton's speech . Tweety is the most strident basher of what was a truly remarkable presentation by the reverend . And he can't even get a rw hack to agree with his nonsense .
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:08 PM
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19. I dunno
I think he let Gillespie get away with a lot.

He could have asked what about Bush being against then for homeland security, what about Bush being against then for the WMD/911 commission...

I mean I was actually waiting for him to do so and it didn't happen...very disappointed.
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