Do we dare dream...a 50-state sweep?

[Wednesdays]

Could it be...EVERY previously red state will now be a swing state?

[Doctor_J]

1. oh, come on

texas, wyoming, idaho, alabama?

[LiberalTechie1337]

8. Don't forget me

representing the red state of the Heartland...INDIANA

[LiberalFighter]

21. I think Kip Tew suggested...

that Indiana might

[Gildor Inglorion]

11. Mississippi, Georgia, Oklahoma...

hopeless, and what a shame.

[RummyTheDummy]

18. Don't leave out

Wyoming, Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, Indiana, South Dakota, Nebraska and Utah. Lets be fair. It's not just the southern states.

[RadiDem]

2. That's a pipe dream

some states are beyond hope

[Lucky Luciano]

3. unfortunately, that will never happen....

I have seen some other msg boards where people are firmly entrenched with b*sh and his cohorts.

[K-W]

4. Foolish optimism abounds.

I think we are still the underdogs.

[Nevernose]

19. We are underdogs, but optimism is never foolish

[mellowinman]

5. I'll take 270 Electoral Votes

personally.

[trof]

6. Dare to dream, but no.

If wishes were horses...

[EstimatedProphet]

7. No, sorry

there's still too many people that are hypnotized, and too many freepers.

[CaTeacher]

yes but--just dream

wouldn't it be cool to take all 50 states!

[EstimatedProphet]

13. No argument there

but I won't get my hopes up too much

[Wednesdays]

14. Yeah, we don't need to win over everybody...

Just a plurality in each state. And this can be done by reaching the independent voters.

I was encouraged when someone here pointed out that Luntz' focus group showed a 50% drop in support for *. Shoot, forget about a 50% drop...let's take a 10% drop and look at the numbers. If all the Gore voters vote for Kerry, and just 1 out of 10 * voters stay home (they don't even have to switch voting, just stay home), then Kerry wins a landslide, 338-200 electoral votes. And that doesn't take into consideration any new Dem voters or voters who switch from Repug to Democratic!

[nini]

9. keep hope alive

doubtful - but your optimism is wonderful... when's the last time we were really optimisitic?!?!?!

[LiberalTechie1337]

10. More feasible, yet still optimistic goal

65% Popular vote

Still very hard, but possible

[belle]

33. Yah, I'd settle for that.

[Blue-Jay]

12. Get real.

That will never happen as long as any of us are alive.

[wellstone_democrat]

15. You and I can wish for Texas but it ain't gonna happen

sorry, but sorrier that I'm surrounded by hysterics this week who are predicting "end times" if Kerry is elected.

They ain't gonna be persuaded by any speech or even any action. They will continue to vote against their own best interests so that they can feel like "a winner" (read: privileged millionaire).

[Eurobabe]

16. We can dream but it ain't gonna happen

sorry n/t

[Wednesdays]

17. I agree with you all in one sense...

It is unwise to get overconfident.

But I know one thing: I sure as hell will campaign hard here in Oklahoma as though it were up for grabs!

Who's with me?

[RebelYell]

20. I see a landslide coming

It would go a long way to show the rest of the World that we do NOT approve of *Bush.

[never_get_over_it]

22. FREAKING LANDSLIDE

[Lori Price CLG]

23. Yes, if not for Diebold or Bush attacking us first...

or an October Osama trout-out.

Lori Price
http://www.legitgov.org/

[LiberalFighter]

24. If those people that vote based on who they think will win...

it could happen that way.

And between now and the election... if the polls show that Kerry is going to have a major win... we might see many jump ship just so they can say they voted for the winner.

[Wednesdays]

25. Makes sense.

eom

[RebelYell]

26. Sneak peek into the GOP polls

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2100630

Bush-Cheney Campaign Headquarters:
What They Don't Want You To Know

by
Wayne Madsen

JULY 27, 2004: 1000 PDT (FTW) -- Amid a towering cluster of office buildings in northern Virginia stands a 10-story red brick and glass edifice. One of many new office buildings rising along Arlington County's growing Rosslyn-Ballston business corridor, the structure nestled at the end of a cul-de-sac at 2107 Wilson Boulevard has a special mission this year: to ensure that the Bush-Cheney administration is guaranteed another term in office.

~~~~~~~~

Yet the Bush-Cheney operation, with all of its security cameras and guards, does not fully appreciate the importance of operational security. While recently walking past the building on a well-traveled pedestrian sidewalk that leads to the Court House Metro station, I noticed that on the first floor, in clear view of anyone who wanted to look, were two 25-inch plasma computer screens. Both had color-coded maps of the United States. Stopping to marvel at the data being represented on the screens, I realized that one of the screens represented GOP tracking polls. In many cases, such internal political party polls - which are always highly classified - represent truer numbers than what is being reported by the national media organizations.

Quickly scanning the map, I saw that the GOP numbers are a matter of serious concern. Using blue for its safe states (possibly the GOP feels that using red is too socialistic for its tastes), the Bush campaign sees itself in a commanding position in most of the wheat belt Prairie states, the upper Rockies, and the Bible belt South. Using yellow for toss-up states, the GOP pollsters seem particularly concerned about Louisiana, Arizona, Nevada, Florida, Arkansas, Colorado, and North Carolina. Solid red states (in this case they are Kerry states) include the same states Al Gore won in 2000 with the addition of Ohio, West Virginia, and New Hampshire. If that is how the GOP is reading the political tea leaves, it is very bad news for Bush-Cheney.

~~~~~~~~

The Associated Press is reporting that its analysis of statewide polling shows Bush in the lead for electoral votes. If the computer screen at Bush-Cheney 04 headquarters is any indication, the AP is way off the mark. One can only wonder how many other "public" polls are similarly skewed.

~~~~~~~~

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/072704_bush_headquarters.shtml

[slutticus]

27. Now way.

The people who are avid * fans have their fingers in their ears, their eyes shut, and are singing "LA LA LA LA LA!!!". They will vote for shrub no matter what. There is no way any of them are even watching this convention. These people vote based on faith...not truth...not facts...not even common sense. I'm sorry to say....it will never happen.


The dipshits at the other site are monitoring this thread by the way...Hi Dipshits!!!!!! :hi: My condolences for November!!!!!!!

[Wednesdays]

30. I wonder how many of them

we could coax into a showing of F911? :)

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

28. eh

I'm enjoying the enthusiasm, but er, no.

However, I do think Kerry is going to win and not just by a little bit, either.

How's that?

[kwolf68]

29. Oh no

Idaho? Come on. Bush at least gets that one.

Other than that....I must say thats not realistic, but his brilliance is obvious.

[NYCGirl]

31. I hate to be a wet blanket, but there's a long way to go.

Cautious optimism is best.

A fine speech is a great start, but there's a long way, and it's all uphill. I've been through enough of these — hell, I even thought Mondale and Dukakis were going to win, and I was sure Al Gore was a shoo-in.

Hard work and constant vigilance is the order of the day.

[69KV]

32. well we have our work cut out for us

We have a long way to go in a lot of states yet.

But anyone who has some time check out the USA Election Atlas:

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/

There were near landslide years on both sides. 1984, 1972, 1964, 1944, 1940, 1936, 1932...

Do some drilling down into year by year and state by state results.

Even states like Idaho have turned around and voted Dem given the right circumstances. And before anyone writes off Georgia, Montana, Kentucky or Colorado this year, remember that all four went for Clinton in 1992.

Also interesting is comparing state by state results from 1928 and 1932. Quite a turnaround. I can't say if most voters think the Bush regime being in power is the same level of crisis as the Great Depression was, but *I* sure think it is.

[Jack Rabbit]

34. No. There's always Utah