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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:40 PM
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Tune in MSNBC Frank Luntz has a focus group from Ohio
Kerry has blown them away.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:41 PM
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1. DETAILS!
For the cable challenged.
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captain_change Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:42 PM
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2. Disappointed its in the center of freeper land Cincinnati Ohio
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:58 PM
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9. Don't be. This is a good thing.
If Cincinnatians -- in the most Republican region of Ohio -- are blown away by Kerry, Ohio has a very good chance of doing the Big Blue Shift this November 2.
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:46 PM
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3. THIS IS
This is the single most insane piece of programming I have ever seen and I have seen it all.

Frank Luntz looks CRAZED.

What is up with this dudes hair?

I LOVE THESE GRAPHS.

It's like CPR readings.

Listen, I'm telling you this.

We are officially, certifiably, totally diving head first into the abyss.

Our government as entertainment.

Chris Matthews must be GOD.

He thunders from the mountain high.
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:50 PM
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6. Republican Pollster Frank Luntz Presiding Over A Kerry Homerun
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:38 AM
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14. And he looked SERIOUSLY taken aback by that.
He was VERY, VERY sober throughout the segment. The smug cockiness last night was ALL GONE. BYE-BYE. He looks a little worried. Not even a hint of a smile from him. Not once. I think he's realizing that it's gonna be a LOT harder for bush this time than he expected. He was VERY struck by the fact that people had actively switched from being undecided or maybe voting AGAINST bush, to voting FOR Kerry. He knows his team's in trouble.
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 11:05 PM
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12. re: our government as entertainment
I follow government/policy/politics like some guys follow sports. The difference is, my game actually matters.
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Torgo Johnson Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:48 PM
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4. If Kerry blew them away...
Edited on Thu Jul-29-04 10:49 PM by Agitator
it's even better that it is in Cincinnati


(Oops, was supposed to be a reply to message 2)
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:48 PM
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5. He scored highest...

With lines about (paraphrase here from me):

- not going to war because we want to, only going to war because we have to
- discussion of his military service and the bond with his fellow soldiers (one response on why she liked it: "he walked the walk.")
- lessening our dependence on Mid East oil by ingenuity and innovation (alt energy)

That's what I got. I was expecting Luntz' head to spin, but he hid it well. ;-)

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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:51 PM
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7. Frank Is In Shock!
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 11:03 PM
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11. Must be...

He sure wasn't shilling the way he normally does. He even corrected a girl who tried to say Kerry flat out said Bush was a liar...I almost fell over on that one. He told her "that's not what he said."

Strange.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 11:02 PM
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10. Did you hear Tweety's analysis? He said everyone knows that we
went to war for oil. We aren't fighting against bad guys in Africa. He said that oil and our insane interest in the ME is a big factor!

Tweety said that, I promise my chin :wow: dropped.

Tweety is tweeked!
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:55 PM
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8. I couldn't possibly take the chance
to turn on MSNBC - this evening is too great to chance those cheneyers screwing it up for me - you report back and I'll read carefully so I won't upset myself.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:43 AM
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15. No, you would actually have enjoyed watching MSNBC tonight.
They are knocked off balance. SERIOUSLY. They're realizing that maybe Kerry's just getting warmed up or something. That they've seriously misunderestimated him. Luntz was sober, Howard Fineman was sober, Matthews was actually saying positive things, Andrea Mitchell, too. And POOR Joe Scarborough. He knew he couldn't bring himself to say anything positive. And he was left with NOTHING to say. He didn't have ANYTHING to snipe at - except for Kerry maybe delivering the speech too rapidly. That's ALL he could complain about. The ONLY potshot he could take - Kerry went too fast. JEEZ! Pathetic. Luntz was VERY revealing. His sphincter muscle is tight, tonight. He's concerned. He may even be a little worried. He's CERTAINLY off his smug high horse tonight. And last night, he was acting as though he had it ALL covered. Kerry threw 'em completely off their game.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:35 AM
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13. kick
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