do you envision a DU future after January?

[ulysses]

Do you envision us ever doing anything except grousing about how things are...other than grousing about those who do nothing but grouse about how things are?

What are you doing, DUer? What are your plans?

[LTR]

1. DU will not die

It will still be a force.

We can't just rest on our laurels.

There's still lots of work to be done.

[PVnRT]

2. When Kerry is announced the winner

I plan on getting very drunk, then I plan on making sure he stays true to his promises.

[WLKjr]

5. I am hooking myself up with a mini keg

[PVnRT]

14. Mini? Wuss

Get loaded, we've all earned it.

[Zomby Woof]

9. beautifully concise

:D

[lpbk2713]

3. Yes, there will be a good future for DU.

We have a commonality and I, for one, have found a home here.

[AnnitaR]

4. DU will still be needed!

Remember what they did to Clinton???? They will try to do to Kerry as well.

[AwakeAtLast]

6. As long as we seek the truth...

Du will without a doubt have a future.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

7. Oh I've still got plenty of work to do

see I live in this place called Texas, where I have two complete nut-jobs for senators that I need to get early retirement for. And the repukes did this evil job carving up the state recently which meant we lost even more Dems. And we have this repuke governor, Gov. Goodhair who makes me want to vomit.

I've still got a lot of work to do. And I want to keep an eye on Kerry, too. I'm almost too liberal to be a Dem, but I want the Dems to kick fucking ASS in the next four years, so I hope DU stays!!!

[Sweet Freedom]

34. My fellow Texan

I hear you!! Delay is my rep :cry: . We've got lots of work to do in Texas and DU a great place to support one another.

[Cleita]

8. In true DU style we will attack the new administration

relentlessly and they will do their best to answer the criticism. We are terrible asskickers.

[Zomby Woof]

10. Congress next

Then maybe raise a herd of yaks.

[Selwynn]

11. Are you out of your mind? The work BEGINS in 2005.

This place can be a place to tackle the issues, stay informed organized to get policy through an unknown congress, working to keep pushing our leaders in the direction we believe the country should go, working to get our troops home, working to hold the administration accountable, working for the 2006 elections, working working working... this can be a great place to help that work, to share ideas...

We don't come together once every four years and we don't come together just when the "other guy" is in office. At least, it shouldn't be that way.

[2Design]

19. 2006 lots of governor positions are up for election...we need dems

everywhere....we need a base everywhere....we need dems in the schools on the city councils in the state government..right now they are over run with these rw nuts.

[K-W]

12. We better have a future, unless we want another clinton presidency.

The right wing certainly isnt going to stop fighting.

[madinmaryland]

13. arent grouse's a type of bird

that is edible. is that what chaney was shooting at? we had those birds back in ohio.

[depakid]

15. I envision a reprise

of the rousing Green/Dem battles of 2002... :evilgrin:

[Zomby Woof]

16. the Green Party is all but dead

Resting in the Third Party graveyard now with the Know-Nothing Party, the Populist Party, the BullMoose Party, the American Party.... etc etc...

Although they could keep up the ballot novelty act along with the Constitution Party and Worker's World Party.

[knight_of_the_star]

22. I wouldn't say that

It looks like the GOP is going to split down the middle between the Right Wing and the True Conservatives, and the Green Party is nowhere near dead. Just wait, in 2012 it won't be GOP vs Dems, it will be Dems vs Greens with the remnants of the GOP trying to get some attention.

[Zomby Woof]

27. no thanks

YOU can wait, and I will stay here in reality with my sense of historical analysis intact.

[depakid]

33. You miss something in your analysis

The parties you mention were all purely domestic- Greens are an international movement that has actually won national elections in one other western democracy and are serious players in others.

In addition, most of the other parties had their agenda's coopted by one of the two dominant parties. Unless the Democrats adopt Greener positions with respect to environmental concerns and economic justice- both of which are set to become major issues in the next two decades, I fully expect that the Greens will remain the fastest growing political party in the nation.

But let's save all that for January.... ;)

[Sugarbleus]

17. Great question. I think there are issues that still have to be

addressed and pushed even after election lest they get shoved under the carpet. We shall see how far DU goes, eh?

[JohnnyRingo]

18. I was gonna gloat for a couple months n/t

[enki23]

20. we haven't won yet

a very, very hefty portion of this nation is made up of mouthbreathing assholes who will never, ever, ever vote for a non-republican. this thing ain't won, and i am still mostly pessimistic about it. even if it is, the assholes aren't going anywhere. and they aren't going to change.

[knight_of_the_star]

21. I know my plans

Aside from flying myself and possibly an attractive young woman out with me to DC to see President Kerry's inauguration, I think that DU should play a watchdog on BOTH the GOP and the Democrats. We CANNOT allow our democracy to be subverted in the way it has come so close to being so.

[calimary]

23. No, we HAVEN'T won yet. But longrange planning and strategizing is

still a good idea. I am A LOT more confident tonight, having been VERY impressed with Kerry.

I'd vote for morphing ourselves into something of a "think tank." If you've even flirted with some of those big, long, daunting Plame threads, there's a LOT of analysis and research and thought and useful debate in there. We have MANY nimble, creative minds here, and they could well be harnessed to do good.

For a Kerry presidency, we would be well-advised to stay on the offensive with the enemy. Kerry's going to need Congress to help him, not throw roadblocks and sour grapes in his way. THESE are the REAL "sore losermans," folks, and we need to point that out. In fact, we need to point that out, and KEEP pointing it out, with large megaphones, air horns, sirens, circus parades, strobe lights, dancing girls, Goodyear blimps, and EVERY Rose Parade Band combined for the last 20 years. We need to rain fire and brimstone down on ANYONE, PARTICULARLY the republi-CONS, if they so much bat an eyelash the wrong way at Kerry. We need to MAKE them miserable and KEEP them miserable if they make trouble.

And we need to stay on Kerry and the Dems, too. To remind them of their consciences.

[The Blue Knight]

25. I'm getting tanked the night Kerry wins the Presidency, and the night he's

Innaugurated.

Then I'm holding him to his promises. Otherwise, I'll go Green in '08

[PATRICK]

26. Long road to hoe

with lots of rocks. Can't let what happened under Clinton be forgotten. One man can make a difference and also lull people who should have been working harder for a better Congress and fairer media. It could happen in a bigger way under Kerry but expanding the picture beyond him is vitally necessary and the best defense of his mission.

And we haven't even begun to deal with many looming and life-threatening crises beyond terrorism. The party must be a work in progress to remain progressive.

The Internet is needed to unite and seed that progress whether our fine organizers at DU can sustain this group or something else fills the need.

[ronabop]

24. There's a lot *not* totally solved in the current platform.

Problems with Pork
Equal Marriage rights
Re-upping Title IX
Reducing military excess
Settling gun issues (that'll take a good 20-30 years, it seems)
Poverty
Crime
Israel
Labor vs Industry
A country which doesn't vote
(etc.)

If we get a better pResident, great. We still have the house, the senate, state legislators, state governors, counties, and then we have tons of bush-lite scum like Zell miller, Joementum...

We have a hell of a lot of work to do, everything from letter writing to organizing to voting efforts. DU will still be needed.

-Bop

[DoktorGreg]

30. You forgot

There is a fanatical cabal that so far has stopped at nothing to pursue their dreams of greed and avarice, it seems like that ought to be addressed also.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

28. Yes. Even if JK wins, there is much, much to do especially with

respect to changing the current proRW/business antiDem alignment of the media.

If shrubco either steals or wins the election, after the mass suicides, there will be even more to do.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

29. Kerry's inauguaration will be a new begining -- not an end.

[Th1onein]

31. For God's sake!

That's how we got into this fucking position in the first place! By NOT working, not shouting, not grousing, and sending letters, and bitching, etc., etc., etc. We MUST do this for the rest of our lives, and our children must do it, in order to secure, as Clinton says, "a more perfect union."

The work has just begun, my friends.

[antigone382]

32. DU will always have an important role in politics

If nothing else, just to further piss off all the disgruntled freepers after Kerry kicks their collective asses.

But seriously, DU has become home to the (almost) unfiltered voice of the people who make the Democratic party what it is. We aren't elected representatives or political commentators (for the most part), but regular people, with regular jobs, who mow our own lawns and wash our own dishes. DU is one of the most evident manifestations of the internet's potential to galvanize the average joes and janes of America; it gives us a place to participate in politics and be heard. Not only that, but DU is an important watch dog: by keeping us voters vigilant and informed, it keeps politicians, even the ones on our side of the aisle, on their toes, and helps us to hold them accountable for their actions.

DU and sites like it have become an irrefutable force in American politics, one that will hopefully blossom even further, ushering in a new era in which the voice of the common people is as significant and essential as the voices of the leaders they elect and the journalists they watch, read, and listen to.

[0007]

35. Absolutely, and will probably even pick up in its popularity.

[GiovanniC]

36. There is STILL WORK TO DO.

First, the Republicans are going to unleash on Kerry the way they unleashed on Bill. They are full of rage and hate and that's not going to dissolve into puppy dogs and rainbows on November 3. Democrats will need to prevent another Republican witch-hunt... Kerry's job will be hard enough as is.

Second, we need to keep Kerry honest. The Democrats are united to get rid of Bush, but a lot of people are going to be anxiously waiting to see if President Kerry can heal this country and still bring meaningful reforms to the way business is done.

Third, and maybe most important, the Presidency is good, but we also need good Democrats in the Senate and the House. Democratic issues and causes still need to be supported.

Democratic Underground is the place where that can happen.

[kentuck]

37. DU will continue...

Because the struggle is not over in January...It's just beginning.

[catmandu57]

38. There's an awful load of payback

We need to make for sure this monster that has arisen has a stake driven through it's black heart. The neoconvicts need to be just that, newly convicted and sentenced to long hard time for the shit they've pulled to get us in this positition.
We need to work hard to expose the lying media, and the hate mongers, and it's not going to be easy.

[lil-petunia]

39. but like bad rabbits, they keep multipying

besides, their clones will try to do to President Kerry what they did to Clinton. (don't you just love the sound of President Kerry?)

If anything, there will be more to do after November than now.

Rove and his SS are evil. Scaife provides the resources, Rove and his band of merry thugs will go all out to attack President Kerry while they spawn some new frankenmonster candidate who does not require massive doses of anti-psychotics or anti-depressants.

[GOPisEvil]

40. I and my fellow Texans will still be dealing with Republican majorities.

There will still, in all likelihood, be a Republican majority in both houses of Congress (maybe not the Senate - we'll see). Then there's the matter of holding Kerry accountable.

After a cooling off period of no campaigns, we've got some big ones coming up in 2006, with every statewide position up. So the work will begin anew. :-)

[DemExpat]

41. After this 4 year nightmare one would have to be incredibly dumb

to rest on laurels of one won election.


Never again!

(Along with DU's eagle eye vigilance on the new Administration too, of course!!!)

:kick: :kick: :kick:

DemEx

[Carson]

42. A plague on all your grouses!

(Sorry for the egregious Shakespeare pun; I couldn't help myself)


The same question was asked of Rush Limbaugh's program after Clinton left office. He's still around.

Yes, DU will definitely be needed after Kerry takes office. Keep vocal!!

[LWolf]

43. I'm thinking it would be a great time to

focus on issues instead of candidates and campaigns. Of course, I'm the eternal idealist!

[samsingh]

44. there must be - there will be a lot of work to be done

we need to ensure that promises are kept.

we need to fix the media.

we need to fix the environment.

bring the troops back while ensuring that Iraq's civilian population is protected.

continue the fight against the inevitable right wing lies.

this assumes we win. which i believe we will UNLESS the shrubees succeed in stealing the election again.