What will the Saudis do to help Bush win/steal this election?

[fujiyama]

Okay, Kerry made it clear. The US would no longer be a bitch to the Saudi Royal family. So what will they do to get Bush back in the WH?

They can lower the gas prices as was clearly mentioned in Woodwards's book. What else is there? Provide a new healthy group of religious psychos to kill Americans and provide Bush with the terrorism boost.

:tinfoilhat: Then again, maybe I need not wear it. I think the Bush and Saudi Royal Families are a little too damn close.

[ronabop]

1. Fair market value:

US citizens should pay 4 dollars a gallon to have a stable society, just like the UK.

You do the math.

-Bop

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[lapfog_1]

2. Uhhh, maybe not.

There are some very disturbing articles about oil production
right now. There is a major belief that oil production, even
from Saudis, is flat out 100 percent. The Saudis always controlled
the price for OPEC and for the world by being able to up
production at a moments notice... but they haven't been able to
this summer (strong demand from developing countries like China,
coupled with worldwide drop off of production, coupled with Iraq
and Yukos, could mean the end of "cheap oil"... which is why
oil futures are still over $42/barrel when the stated Saudi goal
was to bring this down to $30/barrel.

Plus, it's been rumored for years that the Saudis have been
overstating their reserves ever since they took control of their
oil fields... and the overstatement just kept getting bigger and
bigger to where it might be that they have only 2/3rds of what
they have reported, and there might be a similar overstatement
of pumping capacity as well, though not by as large an error.

In any case, it may simply not be within their ability now to
lower costs for imported oil to the United States, no matter how
much Bandar Bush wants to see it happen.

This could be some very serious shit coming down on all of us.
We needed to have started 15 years ago on an Apollo program
to renewable energy Independence.

[DavidFL]

3. Nothing.

They'll just sell their oil to other countries that are in need of it, like China. They didn't help his father win over Clinton, and it's certainly arguable that George H.W. is much closer with the House of Saud than George W.

Besides that, it will be years -- I think the most optimistic figure I've heard tossed around is 10 -- before the U.S. is no longer dependent on Saudi crude, so the they win either way no matter who's president. We are an oil-dependent economy and this will not change overnight.

I'm not aiming this at you fujiyama, but this is one of the problems I have with 'Farenheit 911'. It's made the Saudis into the new bogeymen and this distracts attention away from those that are entirely to blame for this mess we currently find ourselves in: the neoconservatives in this administration. They exploited the holes in our electoral system to get Bush in office, not the Saudis. They exploited Sept. 11th to get the Patriot Act passed, not the Saudis. They pushed for the war in Iraq, not the Saudis. They wrote and implemented the policy of torture of Afghan and Iraqi prisoners, not the Saudis. And if you really want to get down to it, many Americans' love affair with big, gas guzzling cars and SUVs, without demanding a raise in fuel efficiency standards or the exploration of alternative fuel sources, keep us dependent on oil, period. In this case, we are our own worst enemies.

[Nay]

4. Send 15 more effing hijackers, just like they did last time.

[leftchick]

5. They will use their Voting Machine Companies and Connections...

http://www.ecotalk.org/VotingMachineCompanies.htm

Lots of info at this website on who owns the companies and runs them. Lots of Saudi, Carlyle, BFEE connections...

[NewJeffCT]

7. gas prices will shoot up soon

the prices will shoot up over the next month or so, and then Bandar Bush will announce that they are increasing production and prices will start to drop nicely just in time for the election...