carolinayellowdog
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Fri Jul-30-04 09:39 AM
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The Kerry campaign must have the goods on AWOL |
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Hey,
Like many of you I was expecting a 7 or 8, and was deliriously happy that the final night of the convention was a perfect 10. The Kerry daughters could not have been more appealing or more successful in portraying their father's human qualities. Kerry's speech was magnificent and makes his victory inevitable (knock wood.)
But what most struck me (and which I don't see widely discussed here this morning) was the emphasis of the bio film on Kerry's Vietnam experience, and the masterful buildup of the band of brothers and Max Cleland introducing Kerry. Why this huge emphasis on his military record? Even when the media have determinedly buried the Bush AWOL story when damning records finally came to light?
I have a very strong feeling that the campaign and its allies have *all* the goods on Bush's military career, arrest for cocaine, connection to James Bath, expunging of records, etc.-- all of which will get the necessary attention at the right time. Otherwise, we wouldn't be seeing the tremendous emphasis on Kerry's military service. Seems like they are framing the issue in preparation for the emergence of damaging info about Bush.
Or am I reading too much into this?
CYD
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Fri Jul-30-04 09:41 AM
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I hope to heaven the truth will out.
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Fri Jul-30-04 11:16 AM
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15. I think it was Kerry's "Bring em on!" message |
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Nothing will appear to be scum-based like bringing out other Vets to criticize and deamean Kerry. It will backfire on them like shit in the fan.
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Fri Jul-30-04 09:42 AM
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2. Sadly, I think you are reading too much into this... |
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The mililtary service thing is something that was planned long ago. And he's been using it successfully for years. It's part of who he is, and its also a response to the RNC's attack on Kerry as unpatriotic, anti-military, and soft on defense liberal.
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Fri Jul-30-04 09:56 AM
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They HAVE the goods, so to speak.
Doesn't matter - the media has had it for years....and done nothing.
Everyone on this board within 5 minutes can put forth the case that * was AWOL. Everyone.
If the media won't follow up - than only those who do any research will find it. Us. I'm not sure of the number of people who are viewing this site, but it's not enough to ensure this information hits the 'mainstream'.
It as in F911. All I heard on CNN, MSNBC, FAUX etc - 'lies' from a traitor. It was sick. But guess what - that's what most Americans hear as well.
For some reason this story never gets wings. I can't understand it.
But we will keep it kicked - Watergate took quite a while to take off as well.
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Fri Jul-30-04 10:31 AM
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10. I disagree..Kerry also was at the heart of BCCI and Iran Contra |
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investigations...Kerry has CLEARLY put Bush and the GOP on the defensive as witnessed by their behavior this morning...I expect him to continue the body blows back at them from now through the election.
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Fri Jul-30-04 10:39 AM
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the man was a prosecutor for God's sake! I have NO DOUBT he knows more than we will ever know about shrub
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Fri Jul-30-04 09:43 AM
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3. I missed most of the bio film |
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I had to cut out early just to watch the speech, I need to go watch the film all the way through today. But I do think they know more about bush AWOL issue than we do. I think/hope they will play that card at the opportune time.
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Fri Jul-30-04 09:47 AM
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Perhaps the Kerry campaign has found documentation to finally lay bare the true history of the most deceitful one. But I don't think that's their strategy.
Kerry put Bush and his crowd in a box from which they'll have a hard time breaking out.
Kerry served and knows war firsthand. Bush does not.
Kerry has the support of many military, current and former, taking away a traditional Republican stronghold.
Kerry has taken back the flag.
I hope Kerry has taken back the faith. I'd give anything to not to ever have to hear Ralph Reed talk about who is a good Christian.
Kerry has shown he can think and speak coherently something sorely lacking in Bush.
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Fri Jul-30-04 10:10 AM
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I don't know if the Kerry campaign has the "goods" on AWOL or not. And if they did, I'm not sure they would use it themselves as a direct attack. But by putting John Kerry's service itself at the forefront, they almost make it impossible for dumbya to move without confronting his own military record. Dumbya's military service record is not that of a man who truly served his country honorably and the records he's released just seem to confirm that.
And when the attack comes, I think it will be in a debate, not from Kerry, but from one of the panelist. And it will be a direct question that dumbya will get one chance to answer directly. If he shirks the question like the shirked his duty, then he's in for an uphill battle. That's what I hope anyway.
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Fri Jul-30-04 10:29 AM
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8. Agree- it won't come directly from the campaign |
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But the absolute confidence with which the campaign is emphasizing the military career issue suggests to me that they know the whole damning AWOL truth, and know that it will come out. Wishful thinking perhaps but it's my gut feeling.
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Fri Jul-30-04 10:34 AM
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11. .. but of course the Teflon pResident.. |
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.. will get a pass on this. The spinmeisters will be saying that it was over 30 years ago and move on. And the sheeple will listen and move on.
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Fri Jul-30-04 10:18 AM
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Highly plausible.
This is why Im glad these SwingBoat fruit jobs with that ONeill guy came out now...so that we could address it.
I think that group has now been rendered impotent and are just taking up bandwidth.
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Fri Jul-30-04 10:31 AM
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9. NEW * documents released! |
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Fri Jul-30-04 10:51 AM
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13. Well If they have the goods then it is a down right shame that they |
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would not bring them up in 2000 but let this mad man march into office and wreak havoc on the nation and the world.. Holding them would be a crime in my book.
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Fri Jul-30-04 11:01 AM
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14. I doubt they have an actual "smoking gun" on this |
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There is certainly a compelling circumstantial case that Bush* was AWOL. And he should be able to prove he wasn't, if that's the case. Since Bush* has been unable to produce the relevant documents, the assumption must be that the AWOL story is true.
I think the Kerry campaign is just letting this percolate below the surface, hoping something concrete turns up.
What Kerry did was establish himself as someone who could be trusted making life or death decisions. Unfortunately and inexplicably, a majority of Americans feel that way about Bush* now. They won't hold AWOL against him unless he's proven to be lying. Remember the idiots in Georgia selected Saxby (Chickenhawk) Chambliss over Max (A REAL HERO) Cleland.
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Fri Jul-30-04 11:32 AM
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WHO selected Saxby Shameless? The voters or Wally O'Dell?
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